01 yz426 fork oil specs


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  • mightymouse291

Posted August 17, 2005 - 08:01 PM

#1

hey there guys...I need to know the amount of fork oil to put into my 01 426. I am going to try Grayracer's recommended Mobil 1 Syn.

Also, which is better..to loosen top cap first, or to go through bottom of fork.

Please help me out....

  • grayracer513

Posted August 17, 2005 - 09:17 PM

#2

To properly change the fork oil, you need to remove them from the clamps and pump out the oil from the dampers. There isn't a drain plug as there was long ago, so this is the only way to do the job. Further, when changing fluid types it's necessary to partially fill the fork with the new fluid type, work it through, and pump out as much of the mixed fluid as you can. The 46mm fork takes just less than a quart to fill it the 100mm level, so buy one to flush with, and one to fill.

  • djo269

Posted August 17, 2005 - 11:23 PM

#3

I know the stock measurement in my 03' yz450f is 135mm from top of outer tube fully compressed. I think the range is 80mm to 150mm. I wish I had it that easy(changing fluid only). Usually if I have to get into my forks, its to change fork seals which requires more time(and money). Only "loosen" caps before removing forks from clamps. Have fun stroking your fork!lol

  • mightymouse291

Posted August 18, 2005 - 06:08 AM

#4

thanks for the help guys. I tried to loosen the caps while in the clamps, and it wouldn't budge...I guess over torqued. I have to change the seals which blew out on my first ride on the used bike. Anyway I will pump them out, fill a little, pump them out, then fill again....100mm from the top of the tube right?

  • grayracer513

Posted August 18, 2005 - 12:37 PM

#5

I tried to loosen the caps while in the clamps, and it wouldn't budge...I guess over torqued.

Loosen the upper clamp pinch bolts before attempting to loosen the clamp. The triple clamp compresses the walls of the uppere tube down on the caps, locking them in place.

The oil level is a range, 85-135mm from the top of the collapsed fork assembly with the damper fully compressed, and the spring removed. Higher oil= harsher ride, but less bottoming. Lower = more supple action, but bottoms more easily. Start at about 100mm and go from there.

  • Ga426owner

Posted August 18, 2005 - 01:55 PM

#6

I would only add ...not to battle or dissagree with greyracer...to completely dissassmble the forks and flush them out first with a cleaner/preferably contact cleaner/parts cleaner. I remove the springs, the rod, the seals, all valves and dissassemble down to each tube. Here is the problem if you do not do this at some point...The compression valve at the bottom will hold a lot of contaminants/sludge that accumulates over time.. I completely remove this valve on every fork service as well as take this oppty to replace fork seals with new. It will be impossible to get all contaminated / old fluid out without doing this procedure. It does however take more time but it in my opinion the correct way to service forks. I do it every 3-6mos depending on how much riding I do. Front and rear. It will however teach a newby how the forks and the shock really work and will educate a novice on valving tweeking.... On 426's I start with oil level at 90mm and add in 5cc increments as needed (at the track)on stock KYB's except on my own Enzo suspension Subtank set up...oil level for that is at 70mm. :D

  • FZ1426

Posted August 18, 2005 - 05:59 PM

#7

I would only add ...not to battle or dissagree with greyracer...to completely dissassmble the forks and flush them out first with a cleaner/preferably contact cleaner/parts cleaner. I remove the springs, the rod, the seals, all valves and dissassemble down to each tube. Here is the problem if you do not do this at some point...The compression valve at the bottom will hold a lot of contaminants/sludge that accumulates over time.. I completely remove this valve on every fork service as well as take this oppty to replace fork seals with new. It will be impossible to get all contaminated / old fluid out without doing this procedure. It does however take more time but it in my opinion the correct way to service forks. I do it every 3-6mos depending on how much riding I do. Front and rear. It will however teach a newby how the forks and the shock really work and will educate a novice on valving tweeking.... On 426's I start with oil level at 90mm and add in 5cc increments as needed (at the track)on stock KYB's except on my own Enzo suspension Subtank set up...oil level for that is at 70mm. :D

I would strongly recommend against general recommendations of putting any type of solvent in the forks at all. Not knowing the specific solvent you're dealing with could destroy your seals, and contaminate the oil.

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  • grayracer513

Posted August 18, 2005 - 06:17 PM

#8

He was talking about a set of forks that would be rather completely disassembled, washed and dried. I don't see the problem.

  • ripntear

Posted August 18, 2005 - 06:18 PM

#9

I sent my forks to Factory Connection for a revalve. When I got them back it shows 140mm for the oil level. Is that how much they added or is that 140mm from the top of the tube? I have not ridden it yet to see how they feel, but that sounds like a high level compared to several of the other posts I have read.

  • Thrash1

Posted August 18, 2005 - 06:50 PM

#10

Actually 140mm is below the recommended the range set..... 130mm is standard. You have to remember that Your filling from the top. The smaller the number the more oil is in the forks.

  • Ga426owner

Posted August 19, 2005 - 07:46 AM

#11

He was talking about a set of forks that would be rather completely disassembled, washed and dried. I don't see the problem.


Thanks GreyRacer - that is what I mean. For complete dissassembly - Solvents are ok - just completely clean and dry.
I know several that will do this type of service once a year and just replace fluid per GreyRacers explanation every 3mo....either way you assure yourself better suspension performance with new fluid. :D

Also 140mm oil level....please check this again - has to be a mistake unless rider is 90lbs... :D

  • mightymouse291

Posted August 19, 2005 - 08:39 AM

#12

I am in the middle of the job right now. It all came back to me once I get into them, except these are upside sown from my old suzuki forks..Anyways wish me luck reassembling......

a 1 1/2" PVC coupling fits right on for a seal driver, just cut a groove out to go around inner tube and you are in.

  • ripntear

Posted August 19, 2005 - 02:13 PM

#13

Also 140mm oil level....please check this again - has to be a mistake unless rider is 90lbs... :D


I called Steve Ross w/Factory Connection in Rochester NH about the fork fluid level. He said that for Trail/Enduro/Mountains, it isn't uncommon for them to go to as low as 145mm on the '01 forks and rarely get over 125mm. These are base line starting levels based on specific data they have collected over the years depending on terrain, weight and skill level. Some fluid may have to be added, but it's easier to add than to remove. I won't get to ride until next weekend, I'll give a report on what I think.

  • mightymouse291

Posted August 19, 2005 - 02:44 PM

#14

Okay do I leave the outer tube extended or compress it down to the inner tube to measure the oil level? I had it down and am at the top of the tubes. the owners manual called for 578 cc, but i am only at 425cc right now... any help?

  • RJB

Posted August 22, 2005 - 06:55 PM

#15

Just had mine redone with Race Tech gold valves. On my '02 YZ426, they recommended changing the stock spring from .46 to a .44 and 90mm oil. Setting is for trails at beginner/intermediate level standard stiffness. I weigh 180lbs. Not sure how that translates with the stock valves.





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