Enzo Subtanks with stock suspension????


13 replies to this topic
  • dunecj2a

Posted July 18, 2005 - 08:49 PM

#1

Will Enzo's sub tanks work good with stock 04 suspension :applause: I got a killer deal on some new subtanks and was wondering if I should put them on my stock forks :eek: Should I waite till I can come up with some coin to get the valving done and then hook up the tanks?

  • John407

Posted July 18, 2005 - 09:08 PM

#2

No I sorry the sub tanks will not work on your bike. You should pack them up and send them to me right now. :eek: :applause:

  • grayracer513

Posted July 18, 2005 - 09:34 PM

#3

Re-valving for the tanks is the optimum, but the tanks will make a big difference in your forks either way. They will allow you to run oil at the maximum level to avoid bottoming, but without the harshness this usually produces. The overall feel is much plusher than without them.

I made my own for both bikes. They're great.

http://members.cox.n...r/sub_tanks.htm

  • lairpost

Posted July 19, 2005 - 05:23 AM

#4

Where did you source the parts? I'd like to build one for my XR...

  • Ga426owner

Posted July 19, 2005 - 06:26 AM

#5

Will Enzo's sub tanks work good with stock 04 suspension :applause: I got a killer deal on some new subtanks and was wondering if I should put them on my stock forks :eek: Should I waite till I can come up with some coin to get the valving done and then hook up the tanks?


yes they will help by themselves....but they will be magic if you send your forks and shock to Enzo for coreect valving....as I found out!
they recommend 70mm oil height when using their subtanks for 195-205lb weight

  • dunecj2a

Posted July 19, 2005 - 07:25 AM

#6

No I sorry the sub tanks will not work on your bike. You should pack them up and send them to me right now. :p :)


They won't let them across the border :eek: There the U.S. only subtanks :applause:

  • dunecj2a

Posted July 19, 2005 - 08:13 AM

#7

Re-valving for the tanks is the optimum, but the tanks will make a big difference in your forks either way. They will allow you to run oil at the maximum level to avoid bottoming, but without the harshness this usually produces. The overall feel is much plusher than without them.

I made my own for both bikes. They're great.

http://members.cox.n...r/sub_tanks.htm


Thanx Gray :applause: No money right now for revalve and definately no $$$ for an 06 unless I want to live alone :eek: Gotta make the 04 the best I can to last a couple of years. :)

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  • dunecj2a

Posted July 19, 2005 - 08:16 AM

#8

yes they will help by themselves....but they will be magic if you send your forks and shock to Enzo for coreect valving....as I found out!
they recommend 70mm oil height when using their subtanks for 195-205lb weight

Yeah Enzo is really cool with helpin out :applause:

  • grayracer513

Posted July 19, 2005 - 08:58 AM

#9

Where did you source the parts? I'd like to build one for my XR...

Bimba Manufacturing: http://www.bimba.com...ts/products.htm
The tank is a Reservior from the Original Line Catalog

Polyconn: http://www.polyconn.com
Flow control valves.

Fittings and hoses from a local speed shop.

  • mkporn

Posted July 19, 2005 - 09:56 AM

#10

Bimba Manufacturing: http://www.bimba.com...ts/products.htm
The tank is a Reservior from the Original Line Catalog

Polyconn: http://www.polyconn.com
Flow control valves.

Fittings and hoses from a local speed shop.


You can get most of the parts at the local hydraulic and pnuematic shop....If you do a little searching you could actually cut down the physical size of the fittings and hoses and get the same operating efficencies as the larger items.... There is a company called Clippard pnuematics that sells all the supplies needed. Look them up and find a local dist....



Grayrace< is that Bimba tank separated or is it just one tank? Shouldn't you be using seperate tanks.... i mean they could be the same take just divided... :applause: How did you figure the volume needed for the tank? Just a guess? I would think that the volume would change the effect, considering the compressability of air and the different volume between fork volume and tank volume.....

  • grayracer513

Posted July 19, 2005 - 01:37 PM

#11

I based the design on the Too Tech single tank system. It is one tank. Since both sides of the fork operates in concert, there's no reason to separate the air volumes. As for selecting the size, I based my choice doubling the volume of the two tanks used by another member in an Enzo-style set up. The greater the air volume stored over the oil, the less it adds to the cumulative spring rate, and the more neutral it is. That leaves the springing and damping to the springs and dampers. With the flow control valves, you end up with a sort of high/low speed compression damping adjustment.

Mounting the tank high and horizontal also effectively eliminates the need to drain oil from the tank, as is necessary with the Enzo patterned tanks.

Some worry about more oil leaving one fork that the other, but that situation would likely straighten itself out. If oil moved from one side to the other, the side with the added oil would now be more likely to expell oil than the side that lost it. Balance would be maintained more or less naturally. Anyway, to date, I haven't found more than a teaspoon of oil in the tank at any time.

  • mkporn

Posted July 20, 2005 - 07:19 AM

#12

Sounds good.... One last question, who is the manufacture of the flow controls? The reason I ask is a standard flow control for what looks like 1/4" lines are pretty crude and not more than a screw with a needle on the end effectively closing an orifice (these are flow controls right, not just a needle valve?), and a free flow reverse check valve (most are the same design). There are available (as a non standard flow control) units with a finer adjustment than what you would typically pick up off the shelf. These might be of benefit considering they are more accuratly controllable. Just wondering. :applause:

  • grayracer513

Posted July 20, 2005 - 08:24 AM

#13

Polyconn, like I said. Restricted out to the tank, free return to the fork. Polyconn has them available in either forward or reverse biases, and with greater adjustment range that Bimba's.

  • mkporn

Posted July 20, 2005 - 10:43 AM

#14

Thats what I thought... Just needed a confirmation.





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