Which one for me?
Posted March 01, 2001 - 12:07 AM
Sharp suspension jolts+hard skinny seat=BACK ACHE!
Anyway, I have a seven year old son who is interested in riding. I am going to pickup one of the KTM 50s for him so we can do some hillcountry trailriding here.
I need some honest opinions of WR owners. How hard/expensive would it be to find a cushier flatter seat and soften up the suspension for lower speed riding? I'd like to hear any recomendations. Which bike for me XR or WR. Price differences aside which bike would be the best choice? I'm still leaning towards the WR. Also if any parents out there have had any experience out there with the Husky or KTM or LEM 50cc bikes. Thanks.
[This message has been edited by Texas (edited 03-01-2001).]
Posted March 01, 2001 - 04:33 AM
Posted March 01, 2001 - 05:54 AM
If you have any inclination that you might want to race I would go with the wr. The wr is a bike that likes to go fast and to be rode hard. I think the wr is a good combination of a race and trail bike. It has the best of both worlds.
Good luck. Regardless of what you buy, you are on the right track because thumpers rule.
Posted March 01, 2001 - 06:27 AM
Go with a KTM 400EXC and will just anwsered ALL your questions as long as your not planning lots of dual sport rides! It has good low end, great suspension, light weight, etc., etc. 2nd choice is WR. You can play with the suspension to get a softer feel. THE MOTOR ON THE WR IS AWSOME.
Posted March 01, 2001 - 08:17 AM
You sound about like me except I don't have back problems or kids. I have a '99 WR400 that is dual sported. I have installed stiffer springs for my weight and softened the compression damping on both ends to help ease the pain & suffering on rocking single track.
I wrestled with the XR400 vs WR400 decision myself in early '99 before ordering my WR. In hindsight I probably would have been better off getting the XR400. Don't get me wrong, I love my WR but for my skills & riding area the XR would have met my requirements better. I have no experience with the DRZ but I hear it is a very nice compromise between the XR & the WR. The KTM is out of the picture if money is an issue.
There are a ton of used XR400s available because of the WR, DRZ & KTM - go buy a decent one and enjoy riding with your son.
Posted March 01, 2001 - 08:33 AM
1. WR can be a great tight and narly trial bike, even with stock gearing. This bike can LUG! If I can do it, it can be done
2. XR is still much easier to handle in the tight narly stuff. (steeper steering angle is always going to be easier to handle in the tight stuff).
3. WR feels heavier even thought they weigh the same with gas. The reason is the XR carries the weight lower.
4. XR=30 hps, WR 400=43, WR 426=45
5. WR handles better at speed i.e. more stable.
6. WR carries more gas and can ride a bit further.
7. Believe it or not the bottom end on the XR is at least as strong as the WR if not more so. The thing is a tractor!
1. 40 hps
2. better suspension than the XR
3. electric start avaiable!
It is almost the perfect balance between the XR and WR. It is heavy though!
3. electric start
4. nicer componantry
5. good suspenders for offroad riding
400 not quite as much power as the WR, 520 more power...
JJ from WA - 99 WR; WR timed, EKN Needle, Scotts stabalizer, Scotts triple clamps, Pro-Tapers, Michelin S-12's, Terry Cable hot start, MSR Raptor clutch lever, Moose skid plate, Works frame guards, Acerbis Pro Rally guards, Renthal MD-soft grips, Factory Effex graphics, YZ IMS seat base, YZ Factory Effex seat foam and gripper seat cover, YZ rear fender
Posted March 01, 2001 - 10:27 PM
I’d agree with most here except rob f, forget about KTM. For your purposes the new KTM thumpers are about the same as a WR (stiffly sprung, faster than stink, all-out race bike) only more expensive and UNAVAILABLE. Call a few KTM dealers, let them have a good laugh, and you’ll see what I mean. On the other hand you may get lucky and find one that is not yet spoken for (probably only SX models).
I leaning towards the XR for you, but I think you should compare this to a DRZ first.
Bad ergos for big guys, IMO the bars are in your lap, but you can fix this, there is a ton of aftermarket solutions to every shortcoming anybody ever thought of for this bike.
Easy to ride
Probably WAY faster than XR
Not as reliable as XR
You can get a WR and set it up perfectly for your needs with some effort and expense, but having read your post over a few times I’m thinking this will be too much hassle for you. Both the DRZ and XR are very popular scoots so should you change your mind at some future date you should have little trouble selling them for a decent price, but you will lose quite a bit off retail. Having said that then perhaps you should shop the used market place. Try Cycle Trader, they have a search feature, you can narrow it down by bike, region, and even area code.
Whatever you get, lavish yourself and your son with protective gear, be careful, and have fun!