Opening oil filter cover when full of oil - 650R


12 replies to this topic
  • resslera

Posted May 21, 2005 - 07:34 PM

#1

Question for you all. I wrote a while back about a leak from the very bottom of the oil filter cover following my last oil change. I opened the cover up once to see if my seal was intact and dropped a crap load of oil on my garage floor under the assumption that most of it would be drained into the crank case.

It starts to leak pretty bad when riding so I'm going to have to replace to seal but don't want to dump the expensive synthetic I have in there now. Is it possible to open the side and not lose so much oil? Thinking there would be less oil in the line if I let it sit for a good week or so.

Another question. If I open it with the intent of replacing the seal and it's a frigging oily mess will I be able to seal the cover even with the new gasket? Normally when changing the oil I get everything all nice and dry before reassembling.

I know, kind of a dumb question but just wanted to see if anyone else had done this one. I was tempted to tighten the bolts down more but didn't. In the past all I did was just lightly snug these things down.

thanks,

  • BWB63

Posted May 21, 2005 - 07:54 PM

#2

Same way you work on the clutch. Lay the bike on it's side and go to work :)

PLug the vent tube on the gass tank and turn the gass off

  • smashinz2002

Posted May 21, 2005 - 08:03 PM

#3

Install a new rubber sealing ring, and do not dry off the parts first, there needs to be a light coating of oil on the new rubber seal.
Also, don't overtighten the bolts. I think they take about 6ft-lbs is all. Overtightening won't stop the leak if it's leaking. This is a common problem with this bike and a pain, until you realize that every filter change needs a new rubber seal with a light coating of oil on it.
Good luck with it!
L.L.
'00 XR650R
'04 KX500E
'05 DR650SE

  • BWB63

Posted May 21, 2005 - 08:27 PM

#4

I have never change the O-ring. If it is warm it will get to big and hard to put back in place. Some put it in the freezer. I have never had a leak, making sure the O-ring is in it's grove is the main thing.

  • JackAttack

Posted May 21, 2005 - 08:40 PM

#5

Lay the bike on it's side and go to work :)


:D :) :D





:worthy:

  • jws

Posted May 21, 2005 - 08:42 PM

#6

I have never change the O-ring. If it is warm it will get to big and hard to put back in place. Some put it in the freezer. I have never had a leak, making sure the O-ring is in it's grove is the main thing.



i have never changed mine either - with over 20 filter changes :)

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  • BWB63

Posted May 21, 2005 - 08:49 PM

#7

How many of you guy's rode today?

All =most to hot?

Looks like after work rides are going to be back in :)

  • Kritter

Posted May 21, 2005 - 09:36 PM

#8

I rode to the end of the street and back on my 650, 450 and ttr125 today.

slapped fresh rubber (d606) on the 650 ready for my commuting.

put a bithcin headlight on the TTR for late nite camp cruises

freshened up the 450 for a couple of rides this week.

  • resslera

Posted May 22, 2005 - 03:58 AM

#9

You know what, this is the first time mine leaked too with the 3rd time I changed the oil. Could it be the synthetic I wonder? (mobil 1 red cap).

  • frankstr

Posted May 22, 2005 - 04:36 AM

#10

You know what, this is the first time mine leaked too with the 3rd time I changed the oil. Could it be the synthetic I wonder? (mobil 1 red cap).


Its not leaking due to synthetic oil, I use synthetic and my O ring does not leak :D
I have yet to replace the O ring on any oil changes, Its probly piched or :)
I install my O rings dry, Unless its on a application where it slides together upon assembly...No leaks yet.... :)

  • BWB63

Posted May 22, 2005 - 07:16 AM

#11

You know what, this is the first time mine leaked too with the 3rd time I changed the oil. Could it be the synthetic I wonder? (mobil 1 red cap).



Synthetic oil time :)

This is Funny

Beware of synthetic oil, it can do terrible things to you and your
beloved motorcycle. It will not only leak out of your engine faster
than you can put it in, but it will also cause your oil filter to
clog and implode, dumping debris and dirt into your lubrication
system. It also will make every part of your bike permanently
slippery because of its linear molecular chain dispersion action.
Then it will leak onto your kickstand causing it to retract
automatically, dropping your bike on the ground! But that's not all...

Synthetic oil will round off your gears and spin your bearings. It
will also splatter onto your seat causing your girlfriend to fall off
in the apex of a turn and she'll never ride with you again. Synthetic
oil coats your sight window and your timing window with a whitish
pro-emulsification additive that is both non-removable and highly
corrosive. Synthetic oil will completely leak onto the ground overnight
and your dog will drink it and die.

Synthetic oil will wear out your tires and make your battery leak. It
will give you the desperate need to urinate after you put your full
leathers on and then jam your zippers shut. It will contaminate your
gasoline causing your bike to stall on railroad tracks and accelerate
uncontrollably near police cars. It will make it rain during rallies
and on weekends. It will lubricate your timing belts causing them to
jump teeth and break your valves to bits. Synthetic oil chemically
weakens desmodromic valves and causes the clearances to change every
six miles. Then it melts the black soles of your riding boots right
before you walk across your new carpeting.

While riding past groups of attractive women it will cause both of
your handlebar grips to slip off at the same time so you smash your
windscreen with the bridge of your nose. It also causes your swingarm
to crack, your studs to break, and your rotors to warp, and then it
voids your warranty by changing your odometer reading to 55,555. It
also dries out your wetclutch and wets your dryclutch. It makes your
clutch slave cylinder seal fail in the heaviest traffic on the hottest
day of the year while putting an angry wasp in your helmet for good
measure.

Synthetic oil hides your 13mm socket and puts superglue on your
earplugs. Synthetic oil will scratch your faceshield and make your
gloves shrink two sizes night before trackday. Synthetic oil stole
your neutral and sold it to the Chinese for $1.25. Synthetic oil
will make you grow a tail. Synthetic oil will write long crazy
e-mails to your Internet friends and then sign your name at the
bottom!

  • resslera

Posted May 22, 2005 - 03:38 PM

#12

That is some funny stuff about the synthetic :) I'm not ignorant to the chemestry of synthic oils. I have used them in all my vehicles and I am convinced that a synthetic oil will find a leak well before a traditional oil. I've seen it happen too much. Being a new bike I figured it couldn't hurt and I've come to the conclusion that the seal has to be bad.

  • jkwithers

Posted May 25, 2005 - 09:22 AM

#13

be 100 percent sure that the filter is in the right way





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