Posted March 08, 2005 - 06:25 AM
I have used paddle tires at the dunes before, and they work quite well as far as traction goes, but they pose several problems, including:
1) Hard to mount up, and can cause problems, including eating the shock mud-shield, requiring modification of the chain length, and causing the chain to ruin the swingarm.
2) Don't allow the rear tire to "spin-up" from a dead stop, which causes extra clutch wear.
3) Difficult to ride on hard surfaces.
How significant of a performance loss (say, in hillclimbing) would I see with a soft terrain tire over the paddles though? I would think that it would allow you to keep the engine RPM's up durring hillclimbs, which would actually be a benefit...?
Posted March 08, 2005 - 08:07 AM
Posted March 08, 2005 - 08:59 AM
Posted March 08, 2005 - 09:11 AM
Posted March 08, 2005 - 11:50 AM
My last foray into the deep sand (on a bike) was with a CR125...I had WAY too deep of paddles on it, with the wrong gearing (in order to get the chain to fit), and I bet I smoked half the clutch on that trip, just trying to get moving every time I stopped. It worked GREAT once I was moving though.
I guess with a 450 thumper, power wouldn't be nearly as big of an issue...but you still have to deal with the beating that the full paddles put on your bike. I'd really like to find someone that's tried that Pirelli tire in soft sand...I can see regular knobbies sucking, but it looks to me like those mini-paddles would work pretty well...
...I mean, it's all about the volume of sand that you can move per revolution right? If you added up the surface area of all of those mini-paddles, I would think it would equal the same or greater surface area of a "normal" paddle. Additionally, you could control the RPM's better and maintain a higher RPM, which would allow you to keep the engine at it's peak powerband...?
Posted March 08, 2005 - 02:21 PM
Posted March 27, 2005 - 04:28 PM
I used to ride my factory 250 two stroke motocrosser in the sand back in the 70's before we had paddles. The fact is, if you didn't keep your speed up the nose would almost always dive in and make it no fun. Paddles help that. When you are entering a turn or landing a jump and feel your front end starting to dive, you just gas it! The paddles give you immediate thrust and your front end lightens up, saving the day.
Those Pirellis look cool, but after very little wear, you'd be on normal worn knobbys.
I have to agree that they would be good in like San Felipe, MX where you go from sand to dirt to rocks to.....but for pure sand, go with the tire designed for it. With the power of the big thumper, compared to the little 2 stroke, you will be impressed and have a lot more fun.
Posted March 28, 2005 - 02:09 AM
Posted March 28, 2005 - 05:52 PM
Unfortunately, I don't even have a bike yet (I'm waffling between an offroad (18" rear) or track (19") bike right now...I'm kinda leaning towards the off-road version, and unfortunately, the 410 doesn't come in 18" anyway...so it may all be a mute point.
Why do off-road bikes have to have a rear wheel size that's hard to shop for???
Posted March 28, 2005 - 05:59 PM
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Posted March 29, 2005 - 08:28 AM