Trying to decide between xr 400, xr 600


21 replies to this topic
  • bultaco

Posted February 25, 2005 - 06:44 PM

#1

The choices are:

1997 xr 600, in storage for last 5 years.....good shape $2,500

or

2003 xr400 bored out to 440, "Edellbrook?" carb good shape $ 3,400

or

new 2005 xr 650.....well, just a bit more $$$$$$$$$

Raced MX years ago in Europe...250 2 strokes....in my late 20's....now early 40's, yet in great shape, 6"4" 195lbs, lift weight 3x per week + cardio...heard that that comes in handy with the XR650. Would love to get back into the sport here in N. CA. Fire trails, woods, desert...think that the power of the larger 4 strokes is very "usable" and less wearing. Prefer something to grow into rather than grow out of...Heard good things about the wr426 and 450...not sure what years to look into in any of these bikes...Also, any advice as to riding areas/buddies to ride with in N. CA would be wonderful!

Thanks so much for your time, Joe

  • frankstr

Posted February 26, 2005 - 05:39 AM

#2

:p XR650R :) :D It's a no brainer.......
Ride one uncorked if you can, That will answer your ?? :D You'll know :)

  • Jeff@TheQuadShop

Posted February 26, 2005 - 07:19 AM

#3

Xr600!

  • EliJoe

Posted February 26, 2005 - 07:49 AM

#4

I wouldn't want to motocross it, but I love my 600. Seems bulletproff, and quite often, they can be picked up for a reasonable price.

  • Charles R. Duett

Posted February 26, 2005 - 08:28 AM

#5

I have ridden an XR600R at Hungry Valley CA 100 miles per weekend almost every weekend for 4 years. Cleaned air filter and changed oil and filter about every 4 months and she has never let me down. Yes it is heavy but you learn when and where to throw your weight in anticipation and you learn when to back off. I dropped the triple clamps about 1/4 inch and dropped the countershaft sprocket a tooth and she is a lot more fun to ride in the woods. Motor is about as bullet proof as they come. XR400R seems to have a smaller power to weight ratio.

Chuck Duett

  • EliJoe

Posted February 26, 2005 - 10:36 AM

#6

What does dropping the tripple clamps do?

  • LLpeteJ

Posted February 26, 2005 - 11:09 AM

#7

the xr440 with the edelbrock would be my choice.

  • Old_Man_Time

Posted February 27, 2005 - 05:44 PM

#8

What does dropping the tripple clamps do?


Gives you a little sharper turning.

  • BRP-rider

Posted February 27, 2005 - 05:52 PM

#9

I would definitly go for the XR600. Because it has a lot of power and a ton of torque, keeping up with other bikes is no problem, believe me, I own an XR600. I know lots of guys with 400, and they overheat when ridden hard, XR600 don't need to be ridden hard to keep up.

XR600!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • bork

Posted February 27, 2005 - 08:03 PM

#10

If I was 160 lbs or less the 400. BUT I'm at 300lbs & thus 600 is only option. I love it! BTW I tried a crf450, short lived high but for endless pleasure I'll take the 600 !!!

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  • XR6's_rule

Posted February 28, 2005 - 03:01 AM

#11

The value here is about the same for the two bikes. It comes down to what suits you better. The 400 is about 10 kilos (or 22 pounds) lighter than an XR6 but the XR6 has some advantages too. This may surprise you but after owning/riding both, the suspension performance is around the same but the 400's forks are more prone to deflection over broken ground due to the stiffer valving.

The XR6 still has a ton more bottom end power and will hold that advantage through the gears in a drag race although a well jetted/piped stock XR4 matches the XR6 for top-end speed (if you can believe that!)

Overall, with the 400 you have to ride the bike more but it is less phyically demanding than the XR6. So the XR4 is a little better in tight riding but an XR6 has more low grunt, and is more stable at speed.

Both bikes are as reliable as an axe, speaking of which I can't say the same for a number of the new whizz-bang enduro bikes!

  • RingKingPin

Posted February 28, 2005 - 06:22 AM

#12

I'd go for the 650r, for where you live, it's a no-brainer. Maybe it's because you're in Cali but $2500 for a used 600 unless it's just a cream puff seems really expensive. Out here I see 650r's go for about that much :)

  • x400r

Posted February 28, 2005 - 07:03 AM

#13

I have a xr400 and I really like it. But I am kinda looking for an xr600 or xr650. I feel as though I want a street legal bike and I think the xr600 or xr650 would do better. In the woods the 400 is excellent.

I would not pay $2500 for a 97 xr600. I may try to go $1800 or maybe even $1500 for a 97 xr600. even if it is mint, i might give $2000. at the most. if you are going to spend more than that I would go with the xr650. you can get a used one for $3-3500.

  • LLpeteJ

Posted February 28, 2005 - 08:43 AM

#14

the thing i would keep in mind is that the xr400 has a 440 kit and the edelbrock(probably around 43-45 rwhp. imo it should easily be quicker and faster than the xr600(40hp) and 650r (40hp) in pretty much every aspect. for desert riding a heavier bike might feel more grounded tho.
the xr600 would probably be the most reliable bike of the 3

  • thumpasaurus

Posted February 28, 2005 - 09:24 AM

#15

My brother has a 400, I have a 600 and 650R. All dual sported. The only time I like the 400 better is on very tight singletrack. The bigger bikes are more comfortable and can run high speeds all day and you don't feel like you're killing them. You sound plenty big/strong enough to handle the big bikes.

Price seems a little high for both bikes. Even w/ all the bling, don't think I would pay that much for the 400/440. You're on the right track w/ the XR's but keep looking is my advice.. I bought an '00 650R for $2300 that still had the original tires on it.

  • HondaXR650R

Posted February 28, 2005 - 11:07 AM

#16

6' 4"? Xr650r!

  • norton850

Posted February 28, 2005 - 02:01 PM

#17

Hi there, I am a new trail rider in the UK and I am in the same position...I have a couple of bikes on offer...1) is a 2001 XR400 of unknowm history for £2000, the other is an XR600 with £1500 extras (excel rims, 150w stator, CRD bash plate, white bros exhaust) for £3300. The 600 is owned by the local overland specialist. Now my heart goes for the 600...it is the real deal...but my head is wondering if the 600 might be too much for a novice (although I have been riding on the road for over 10 years). Will the weight be too much? Will the power be too much? I will be using it on the road a bit as well, so the extra power would be useful there, but it is the dirt I am buying it for really. Any advice will be greatfully received...XR400 or XR600...that is the question!

  • RingKingPin

Posted March 01, 2005 - 08:15 AM

#18

the thing i would keep in mind is that the xr400 has a 440 kit and the edelbrock(probably around 43-45 rwhp. imo it should easily be quicker and faster than the xr600(40hp) and 650r (40hp) in pretty much every aspect. for desert riding a heavier bike might feel more grounded tho.
the xr600 would probably be the most reliable bike of the 3



where are you getting your numbers? A stock uncorked 650r makes mid 40's. Do a little bit of tinkering and you're well into the 50's

  • Old_Man_Time

Posted March 01, 2005 - 08:55 AM

#19

Get the XR650R and you'll never look back. :)

  • Maj0r

Posted March 01, 2005 - 01:48 PM

#20

Hi there, I am a new trail rider in the UK and I am in the same position...I have a couple of bikes on offer...1) is a 2001 XR400 of unknowm history for £2000, the other is an XR600 with £1500 extras (excel rims, 150w stator, CRD bash plate, white bros exhaust) for £3300. The 600 is owned by the local overland specialist. Now my heart goes for the 600...it is the real deal...but my head is wondering if the 600 might be too much for a novice (although I have been riding on the road for over 10 years). Will the weight be too much? Will the power be too much? I will be using it on the road a bit as well, so the extra power would be useful there, but it is the dirt I am buying it for really. Any advice will be greatfully received...XR400 or XR600...that is the question!




my mate has never ridden before and he got an XR600 6 months ago. He can go anywhere on it other than the steepest of hills and deep water. He cant get it sideways on purpose yet but i wont take too long. Its fast enough on the road and great in the bush. I'm only short..5' 7" but i can throw mine around easily. Great manageable and reliable bike, you can't go wrong with one.





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