XR650R vs. 525MXC vs. WR450F
Posted January 20, 2005 - 01:23 AM
Let me explain why somewhat:
A) I blast down the freeway about 2 miles (at 75mph speed limit) to commute to work, once in a while when I ride in to work.
On weekends, I do 10 miles of road (45 to 55mph) to get to the trails I ride (very technical, averaging 5mph for 20 t 50 miles. Getting there sucks, but better than putting a dirt bike on a trailer or in a truck. Once there, the WR450F is ok, sometimes I wish it was lighter on the tight technical stuff. Sometimes I wish it was more MX or SX for suspention work out I give it.
C) I’m a BIG guy, 6’3” and 270lbs. Stock suspention cranked to it’s max doesn’t quite handle me.
D) The stock gas tank is slightly on the small side. I know this is an easy fix with an aftermarket tank, but it makes me wonder if THIS bike was really meant for the kind of riding I do.
E) There isn’t a single time I ride that I don’t thank my lucky stars for that magic E-Start button!!!
F) I live in Southern Arizona. It gets to be 40F (4C) some mornings when I go out, and up to 120F (49C) some afternoons when I am riding. Water cooling is a must. Sometimes I think the WR is close to overheating, I ride SLOW, and there isn’t a lot of air moving over the radiator. Maybe it is just my paranoia, it hasn’t overheated yet, but, it scares me.
But, I guess I sometimes wonder, a Honda XR650R or KTM 525 MXC Desert Racing.
Posted January 20, 2005 - 03:12 AM
Posted January 20, 2005 - 06:06 AM
My XR does everything that comes in its way...road work too...but when it drops its so so so so annoying to start...lecky start of my riding buddies DRZ`s and KTM put me to shame.....
So put the after market E-Button from Baja Designs on it. I did and its great.
Posted January 20, 2005 - 09:04 AM
Posted January 20, 2005 - 11:09 AM
Posted January 20, 2005 - 02:03 PM
A larger fuel tank would help your range.
There are things you can do to minimize overheating. I have 3 XR650R's and with the way they're setup, none of them will boil over at a stop light or on the tightest of trails or in the dunes at 100F+ outside temp.
Some bikes are easier to start than others and a lot of it has to do with setup, maintenance practices, starting technique, etc. All my bikes usually start in one or two kicks when the engine is stone cold, and it only takes one kick when hot or after it's been dumped. The only time I might have to kick more than twice is when the engine is stone cold and the outside temps are below 40F and then it sometimes might takes an extra kick or two.
Check out this article for comments on various bikes including the WR450.
Posted January 21, 2005 - 05:36 PM
Just to follow up on the article....there IS one bike better than the TE450 Husky.
Its the TE510 Husky. Its mellower in its hit. Even easier to ride. Just as bulletproof. Gear it for the woods, or put on a 16 tooth countersprocket and pull up next to the BRP...
Its the lightest full size at 261 lbs.
Its super quiet!
Its the most hp of ANY stock off-road bike..51hp.
Its full of features like Excell rims, Magura clutch, floating disks, O-ring chain, etc.
The valve train design and components are the best in the industry. Substantially better than what the new Hondas have. Unlike the new red, green and yellow 450's the TE's both has been around awhile and the bugs -- they were minor -- are worked out.
At $7200 MSRP its right there with the jap bikes. The new 450X is $6900
If you want the best all around bike...buy the bigger Husky.
as for 'how long will they be around'
Husqvarna is the worlds oldest motorcycle company. several months older than Harley... they recently got US$77 Million cash infusion from partner Proton. Proton as in Moto GP V5 Proton with a certain famous american road racer family running the R and D show...Watch for some VERY exciting stuff from that group in the near future.
Husky is back!
Posted January 21, 2005 - 10:03 PM
....with out 12 lbs of air in the tires, with out any fork oil, without any engine oil, without any fuel...not sure if thats with acid in the battery or not...
I'm talking real weight...not the bike weight lies bike manufacturers shove down our gullets..
Posted January 22, 2005 - 11:22 AM
Get a 650R or the ktm both are great bikes but the ktm is lighter and has about the same power if not more and it has electric start. Whichever one you chose Im sure you wont regret it.
are you saying the 650 has about 50 HP??? I always heard they were around 35hp.
Posted January 22, 2005 - 11:50 AM
Posted January 22, 2005 - 12:14 PM
Posted January 22, 2005 - 12:16 PM
Clip the pink wire, and do the same mods on the WR and you will bring that bike to life as well.
But for sure the 650R is the torque king, and the most reliable bike--except for the footpeg that falls off!
My full blown 680R race bike with Kibblewhite valvetrain and edelbrock carb is lucky to make 55 hp. No way a 'only uncorked' 650R will show 50hp on the same dyno...
Posted January 22, 2005 - 12:26 PM
Posted January 22, 2005 - 10:20 PM
Posted January 25, 2005 - 11:39 AM
as for 'how long will they be around'
Husqvarna is the worlds oldest motorcycle company. several months older than Harley... [QUOTE]
Actually Triumph is a year older then Harley or Husky. But I would rather have a TE-510 for the dirt then either of them! It does sound awesome from everything I have heard so far.
Posted January 25, 2005 - 12:18 PM
it is good that some of those other bikes are lighter cuz those of us with XR's will save on gas, even though we all have enough to go further than the others, while towing you out.
just my(highly biased though rooted in reality) opinion
Posted January 25, 2005 - 03:36 PM
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