Anyone here drive a street legal WR450 in CA?
Posted January 23, 2005 - 09:26 AM
When I got my bike in 2003 I decided to get to the bottom of it and started making phone calls to CARB, DMV, etc. I was willing at the time to find out how to make the WR comply and spend the money to do it. It got complicated with conflicting stories. A lawyer at corporate Yamaha USA told me that California's original intention years ago was to restrict MX bikes to closed track due to noise and fire hazards. Then the greenies got involved and an emissions standard was set. A bogus standard. He told me that the major bike manufacturers were lobbying to set a federal standard based on noise and fire restrictions and do away with the emission criteria. The greenies lobbying are bogging the process.
Got to stop talking about it, my blood pressures going up
Posted January 25, 2005 - 02:59 PM
If you do, I'd like to hear how you came about it, any difficulties in licensing you had to go through and if you're glad you did so, or not..... I'm looking to somehow do the same, find one, buy out of state, etc. Please share.
One technique requires a dealer to *accidently* place your New WR registration in the street pile vs. the OHV pile when they take the paperwork to the DMV, and then hope the clerk doesn't notice it. This way its a STREET BIKE from day one, and its VIN # is NEVER in the CA. OHV database. Please realize that you will need to be VERY CLOSE FRIENDS with a dealer for them to even acknowledge this possibility, let a lone help you do it. Its ILLEGAL, but it does happen occasionally.
Posted January 25, 2005 - 03:48 PM
Here's a link to the 2004 California Vehcile Code. I've spent many hours in the past digging through the California Vehicle Code and the Department of Transportation web site, etc, and never once found anything about metal or steel lined tanks being required for street bikes in California. If anyone here knows of a valid and legal reference that lists steel tanks as being a requirment for a street bike in California, please let me know, otherwise you may want to chalk it up as an urban legen and never worry about it again.
Posted January 25, 2005 - 04:51 PM
Be that as it may, all of the D/S bikes at the dealers have steel tanks, other than, as you said, a few select street bikes.
I don't believe there aren't any laws on the California books that require street bikes to have steel lined tanks and I believe this is just another urban legend.
I'm wondering if the concern isn't static buildup at the gas station?
Posted January 25, 2005 - 08:09 PM
Posted February 18, 2005 - 03:43 PM
Posted February 18, 2005 - 06:33 PM
Just a side note I bought a 2000 wr in CA and from the dealer, NCY, it was registered for the street,and had a green sticker issued. the dmv would not allow me to have dual reg unless I PNO one of them, and this is really bizzare, I got a refund check from the dmv with a letter stating I have a clean air vehicle.
Questions TTed: When did you buy it (not clear)? Also, what's the dealer's name (NCY?), and what's a PNO?
Pretty cool on the refund too. Kinda like the state politics...just don't make any sense, right!? Here I've got a new, green sticker, CARB certified bike and it doesn't matter, they won't let me register it!!!
Posted February 18, 2005 - 07:37 PM
We need to get those laws changed about steel tanks!
They have had plastic tanks on cars for years now!
If they dont I just may go in the business of making DOT steel lined plastic gas tanks of Kaliforniastan!
Indy, I think its the emission thing with the HC's (hydrocarbons) seeping through the plastic, but your right, all new cars are all coming with plastic tanks now. I'd bet the right plastic for a tank would work. Or same tank with a platic liner inside of it. This would be a real money maker. Be nice if Clarke, IMS and the others got on the stick now!
Posted February 19, 2005 - 12:15 AM
Even if the manufacturers want to stay away from a good dual sport, why isn't their some niche manufacturer customizing motocross bikes and having them registered under section 580 as SPCNS vehicles? From my understanding, that is how all those chopper outfits make their custom bikes legal. I see those bikes all over the place, and they don't seem to have to comply with any emissions, noise or safety regulations. If you read that code, it would be safe to assume that most of our WR's are custom vehicles now anyway, as they are no longer the same set of original OEM parts. I bet that it would be pretty easy to get a bike registered, as I doubt the DMV has anybody working for them that is a bike expert. I just can't understand why nobody is cashing in on this demand in California yet. Jesse James should start a line of West Coast Dirt Choppers.
Posted February 19, 2005 - 08:37 AM
Here I've got a new, green sticker, CARB certified bike and it doesn't matter, they won't let me register it!!!
This is my gripe too...
To all: Make no mistake about it, it's about
TOTAL ELIMINATION of dirtbikes period...
Indy, you can stop with your "Kalifornistan"... We get it okay? Give it a rest and worry about the beautiful state of Indiana..
Posted February 19, 2005 - 01:39 PM
...I don't understand why the bike manufacturers haven't made a capable dual sport street legal bike. There is obviously a tremendous market for them...
Before the end of 2006, I think you'll begin to see more capable dual sport bikes trickle into the showrooms. Just wait and see