2005 WR450 price....crap


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  • Juiceman

Posted May 17, 2005 - 06:58 AM

#81

I started looking in Sacramento then checked Roseville went South through Stockton and Manteca I wound up at Yamaha of Modesto the sales staff was by far the nicest people to deal with I paid $6300 OTD. And they gave me about $300 in accessories for nothing extra. I went in to every dealer with the intent to pay for and load up a new bike. Half of the dealers I walked in to diddint even take me seriously!! I am considering a street bike you can bet I will be back to Modesto when I am ready.

  • BNutZ

Posted May 17, 2005 - 07:30 AM

#82

Interesting...

I contacted Yamaha of Modesto when inquiring about a 2005 WR450F and found they wouldn't entertain or even counter my MSRP ($6,599 OTD) offer... just said "we can't do it" .... I asked what they could do and they told me "nothing close". I definately wasn't a fan of their short/rude informational skills... Of course this was in mid/late February 2005 that I purchased my WR... they were selling like hot cakes so dealers were pretty greedy... (local dealer here stated they were going for $7,300 and up).

I ended up driving 4 hours south to Mission Motorsports in Mission Viejo, CA. They gave me the deal I wanted right out the gate... no B.S. I'll be back there... no doubt.


I started looking in Sacramento then checked Roseville went South through Stockton and Manteca I wound up at Yamaha of Modesto the sales staff was by far the nicest people to deal with I paid $6300 OTD. And they gave me about $300 in accessories for nothing extra. I went in to every dealer with the intent to pay for and load up a new bike. Half of the dealers I walked in to diddint even take me seriously!! I am considering a street bike you can bet I will be back to Modesto when I am ready.



  • qadsan

Posted May 17, 2005 - 08:36 AM

#83

If you live in California and want a new bike you're gonna have to pay sales tax, period! Regardless where it came from the CA DMV wants to see tax...

That's what 99.999% of people think, but there are legal ways around paying CA taxes to the DMV and I'm not just speculating or speaking from hearsay. There are attorneys who specialize in these types of things if you'd like more information and it will save you some good money if you're buying expensive toys (watercraft, aircraft, trailers, bikes, etc).

  • gfunk

Posted May 17, 2005 - 02:39 PM

#84

'05 WR450 purchased in 4/05 at Berts Mega Mall in Azusa, CA (www.bertsmegamall.com) 7,000 OTD. MSRP $6499, DSRP was listed on the tag as $7400. I probably could have eeked another $200 out of them if I was not hungover. :)

For those of you reading from states other than CA, realize that California has Taxation like socialists - 8.25% where I am. Count your blessings. Also, those reading from CA, note that if you buy out of state, you will have to pay CA tax/shipping anyway to get it green stickered here. :D

  • qadsan

Posted May 17, 2005 - 04:23 PM

#85

...Also, those reading from CA, note that if you buy out of state, you will have to pay CA tax/shipping anyway to get it green stickered here. :)

If you live in CA and buy a new vehicle out of state and bring it into CA, you're actually paying a 'use' tax and not a sales tax to the DMV. Section 6201 of the Revenue and Taxation Code imposes a use tax on the storage, use or other consumption in California of tangible personal property purchased for storage, use or consumption. The issue then becomes whether the property was purchased for storage, use or consumption in California and that’s defined in subdivision (:D(3) of Regulation 1620 as follows:

"Property purchased outside of California which is brought into California is regarded as having been purchased for use in this state if the first functional use of the property is in California. When the property is first functionally used outside of California, the property will nevertheless be presumed to have been purchased for use in this state if it is brought into California within 90 days after its purchase, unless the property is used or stored outside the state of California one-half or more of the time during the six-month period immediately following its entry into this state."

In other words, if you bring your new "California emission compliant" vehicle that you purchased out of state into California within 90 days, then you’ll pay a use tax (not a sales tax). If you don’t bring your new "California emission complaint" vehicle that you purchased out of state into California during the first 90 days, then you will not pay the use tax (typically 7.75% to 8.25% in CA). If your vehicle does not comply with California emissions, then it will not be allowed into the state per sections 43150-43156 of the California Health and Safety Code. It’s not as cut and dry as you might think because you’ve got registration and other issues to deal with such as emissions compliance, etc and new vehicles brought into CA are subject to an initial inspection from the CA DMV. For instance, if you buy a new motor home, trailer, or motorycle from out of state that is compliant with California emissions, the state you’re keeping may require it to be registered and they’re going to want you to pay their state tax on it (they want their money). If you can get a long enough temporary registration in another state so you don’t have to pay their sales tax or the if the vehicle doesn't require registration such as with some off road bikes in some states and then bring it into California 91+ days later, you’ll likely be set in terms of avoiding taxes. You can also risk not registering it, but then you may be in bigger trouble if you get caught using it unregistered (i.e. speeding ticket, etc). The 91+ day trick still works for now, but but this loophole is closing quickly thanks to certain folks (Sen. Dede Alpert :) , D-Coronado / San Diego County), etc. It's been a great loophole that has saved some folks who knew how to use the system a nice chunk of $$$ :D

  • Push Rod

Posted May 17, 2005 - 09:04 PM

#86

LA Cycle has them for $6499. OTD. I bought 2 bikes previously from them and it was a smooth transaction. It was worth the drive from Nor Cal.

http://www.layamaha.com/of2.htm

  • kelldog

Posted May 18, 2005 - 07:55 AM

#87

la yamaha sells them for 6499.00 out the door. I got my 04 wr450 for 6400.00 OTD from chaparral motorsports

  • SaLpachino

Posted May 18, 2005 - 08:11 AM

#88

I paid $6300 OTD down in the bay area. I went to Roseville Yamaha at first too. I got shitty service there, so I went else where. I had to haggle quite a bit but was able to work the price down. Check out East Bay Motorsports in Hayward. Thats where I got the best deal.

  • Dan_Lorenze

Posted May 18, 2005 - 08:50 AM

#89

6400 in Socal is a great deal... I'd jump on that... Buy a DS kit from the dealer and register it as an on road motorcycle.. Find a dealer that will do this and your golden... Shouldn't be to hard to find... :)

  • simch

Posted May 21, 2005 - 03:13 PM

#90

My 04 was £5327 here in the UK. That's like $9500!! And our gas is near $8 a gallon now!

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  • Hanginiron

Posted May 21, 2005 - 03:25 PM

#91

Bought mine last tuesday from eastbay motor sports 6335otd no bullsh!t :) had to haggel alot tried to walk out three times but they begged me back it was worse than when i bought my truck.

  • WheelsUp

Posted May 21, 2005 - 04:05 PM

#92

My 04 was £5327 here in the UK. That's like $9500!! And our gas is near $8 a gallon now!

Your per-litre price is only a couple of cents more than ours. Your taxes are over 75% of the price, where our taxes are only about 29% of the price.

There may be a difference in the structure... our Federal and State fuel taxes are per-gallon ($0.18 fed, $0.18 California), then we have sales tax added on, which is around 8% in California. The state and federal fuel taxes don't fluctuate with the price of the fuel... it's a per-gallon tax. Sales tax does since it is based in the sale price.
So... for a gallon at $2.40, we're paying about $0.56 in taxes, or about $0.60/litre total, and $0.14/litre in taxes.

If your taxes are structured based on price like our sales tax, then as your price goes up, ALL of your taxes will go up.

  • BergArabia

Posted May 29, 2005 - 11:31 PM

#93

I am shopping this week for a 450 to play on the tall dunes here. The local dealers here in Dubai will sell me the following bikes at the following prices...

WR450f 7200 US dollar
CRF450x 7200 USD
YZ450f 6250 USD
CRF405r 6950 USD

Well I checked the official websites for your M.S.R.P. in US and found the following
WR450f 6600 USD
CRF450x 7200 USD
YZ450f 6400 USD
CRF450r 6900 USD

So go figure. :) :D The Yamaha dealer here beats your recommended dealer price on the YZ but is like 600 dollars over on the WR... :)

As I am in the middle east which is a long way from any other dealers the only thing I can really do is take it from the dealer but after reading the reviews I was looking forward to a WR450f.. Now I am thinking I will just have to get used to kicking and go for a YZ... :D

  • Unibomber

Posted May 30, 2005 - 09:58 AM

#94

Dude if your willing to drive through nevada and two hours into Utah, I can get give the number to a dealer in Delta, Ut that has smokin prices, my experience in Reno was not a good one, $$$ the economy in Reno is booming and so the prices are high. Pm me if your interested .......

Also motorcyclebrokers has good deals, only $200 to ship

  • clark4131

Posted May 30, 2005 - 10:40 AM

#95

...my experience in Reno was not a good one, $$$ the economy in Reno is booming and so the prices are high...


That ain't no lie! I bought mine out of Oklahoma and had it shipped to Reno for a little over $6200 total. From what I hear, Sierra Yamaha in Quincy, CA is the ticket for NorCal and Northern Nevada. My friend just bought a new WR from them for $6100 OTD about a month or so ago! :) ...SC

  • freestyle250

Posted May 30, 2005 - 06:30 PM

#96

I bought mine 2 months ago for $5,700. Cant tell you where, cause I dont wanna cause trouble, but the dealers can afford to go that low, trust me. We also got 20% off a full gear set up. All you gotta do is know what buttons to push.

  • WheelsUp

Posted May 30, 2005 - 07:08 PM

#97

I bought mine 2 months ago for $5,700. Cant tell you where, cause I dont wanna cause trouble, but the dealers can afford to go that low, trust me. We also got 20% off a full gear set up. All you gotta do is know what buttons to push.

For a WR250F or a WR450F?
You can do that easily on a 250, but that's pretty close to cost on a 450.

  • ads1

Posted May 30, 2005 - 08:49 PM

#98

Don't go through the headache of buying out of state for a wr450. Call yamaha of Modesto and they will make you a great deal on a bike. I've been in there shop numerous times and I can tell you they don't play games! Its only about an hour from roseville. :)

  • Vibeguy

Posted May 30, 2005 - 09:53 PM

#99

Another trick to buying a bike is to go in on a Monday or Tuesday, dealers typically sell fewer bikes on these days and are more willing to deal than on a weekend when they have their best sales days.

I have bought my last 2 bikes from Zach at Motorcylebrokers and feel I got a great deal. I tried to give my local dealer cash for 2 new bikes but he insisted on getting the vaseline out ($600 for dealer prep on 2 dirt bikes) so I took my cash elsewhere.

  • freestyle250

Posted May 31, 2005 - 10:01 PM


For a WR250F or a WR450F?
You can do that easily on a 250, but that's pretty close to cost on a 450.

A 450. I got the hook up from my uncle, he works for Camco construction and he built the motorcycle shop so he called in a favor from the owner. Couldnt pass it up, so my dad ended up buying two of 'em




 
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