426 vs 450-does 5 yrs make a difference?


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  • pinnedalltheway

Posted December 27, 2004 - 03:59 PM

#1

I had a 2000 YZ 426. The bike was very reliable, but it felt like it had a pallet of bricks strapped to the seat and jumping it was a little scary-it had better be pointed in the right direction, because there was no mid air changing. I went back to a 250 2 stroke and it felt much better. Now, I rode my friends CRF 450 and I was three seconds faster a lap!! Now I will be buying a 450f. Has the YZ lightened any? I'm considering the RMZ because Suzuki's seem to have everything I hated about my 426. I do like the reliability of the Yamaha, and would definitley get another if it was alot lighter. I'd like to hear from anyone who has ridden the 426 and now a 05 450.

Thanks for your input

  • stainlessTT

Posted December 27, 2004 - 04:36 PM

#2

I'm considering the RMZ because Suzuki's seem to have everything I hated about my 426.


Okay :cry:

  • MXof21

Posted December 27, 2004 - 04:43 PM

#3

I had a 1999 YZ400F and I didn't like it at all, it felt top heavy and cumbersome. I switched to a 2 stroke for a couple of years then picked up a YZ250F when they came out and I loved it. I picked up an 03 450F in the fall of 2003 and after a year+ of riding it is the bike for me, I am sure the 04 & 05s are even better. I tried the CR450F and it's a great bike but I felt more comfortable and confident on the YZ. FYI - I'm an old fart (51) but I have my own track and ride a lot and I love the available power, it helps me clear the jumps coming out of corners. I suck in corners and the 450 is my only salvation.

  • stainlessTT

Posted December 27, 2004 - 04:57 PM

#4

I also love my 04' 450, just like MXof21 it has alot of power on tap at all RPMs. It corners great, but the stock tires are garbage. I'm running Dunlop 773 on both ends, great for mud and loose stuff.

I ride on my own track as well, good exersize

  • Satch0922

Posted December 27, 2004 - 05:34 PM

#5

"426 vs 450-does 5 yrs make a difference?"




YES

  • pinnedalltheway

Posted December 27, 2004 - 05:45 PM

#6

Thanks for the input--are they lighter? someone told me they were about 10 pounds lighter. When I spoke of Suzuki, not the Kawizuki, I meant the Suzuki's have always seemed to jump and carve lines very well. My guess is that they all are much better than five years ago and I should just get which ever one feels the most comfortable.

  • grayracer513

Posted December 27, 2004 - 06:09 PM

#7

Thanks for the input--are they lighter? someone told me they were about 10 pounds lighter.

Try close to 20! Ride the '05 and then talk to me.

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  • Math

Posted December 27, 2004 - 08:45 PM

#8

I used the sepc comparison tool of the Yamaha website to compare the 02YZ426f with the 05YZ450f and they say there is an 11 pound diff between the two :cry: . Imagine what kind of a diff there is between the 98-00 400f and the new 05 450f! :cry: I'd say about 15 pounds.

If they bring the alu frame next year, the diff is gonna be even bigger :cry: :cry:

  • bluerider450

Posted December 27, 2004 - 09:10 PM

#9

stainless tt and mxof21 did you do anything to make them handle so good because to me the crf i felt way faster and cornered better but im a yamah guy and imsticking with it maybe its the tires the dunlop 739's i wontrecomend to anyone i was thinking of getting the 756 thats whats on my friends crf450 but i wann aget the suspenstion adjusted to my sixe that might help?

  • MXof21

Posted December 28, 2004 - 03:57 AM

#10

I added an 8oz flywheel weight, it helped me carry momentum through the corners and made power delivery more managable. I don't think the weight is as necessary on the 05 model.

  • nzz900

Posted December 28, 2004 - 08:26 AM

#11

I owned a 2000 YZ426 which was 249 lbs. My 2003 YZ450 spec'd at 231 lbs and my 2005 YZ 450 is supposed to weigh 228 lbs. And yes you cannot even compare the 426 with the 450 in terms of cornering, suspension, jumping, power. Day and Night difference. 2005 YZ 450 is awesome...

  • bluerider450

Posted December 28, 2004 - 08:59 AM

#12

i waight on the flywheel can help cornering also. wow maybe i should try doing that or the clutch you guys where talking about but doesnt the weight take away the "hit" i thought i read that in another thread

  • MXof21

Posted December 28, 2004 - 09:57 AM

#13

A flywheel weight will reduce the "hit" a little bit but it is offset by reducing the probability of stalling in corners, for me it was a great trade off. I never pin the throttle coming out of corners even with the flywheel weight. Pinning the throttle did little for me except tire me out quickly, when I learned to roll the throttle on it increased my endurance significantly.

  • stainlessTT

Posted December 28, 2004 - 10:29 AM

#14

I just play with my suspesion accorind to the riding I'm going to do and the ground condition. Don't ask me how to make it ( suspesion settings ) better... its an indivual basis kinda thing and I'm still learning myself. But it does make a difference.

The biggest corner handeling mod I did is the 773 dulops, its usally very soft where I live except in the mid of summer.

I have never riden a CRF so I can't compare... but like I said in another thread (YZ vs. CRF) if I feel the CRF is better when I go to purchase my next bike in a few years in will have a red bike in my garage instead of a blue one. Let the manufacturers chase my business by making the best bike.

  • Ga426owner

Posted December 28, 2004 - 12:17 PM

#15

I had a 2000 YZ 426. The bike was very reliable, but it felt like it had a pallet of bricks strapped to the seat and jumping it was a little scary-it had better be pointed in the right direction, because there was no mid air changing. I went back to a 250 2 stroke and it felt much better. Now, I rode my friends CRF 450 and I was three seconds faster a lap!! Now I will be buying a 450f. Has the YZ lightened any? I'm considering the RMZ because Suzuki's seem to have everything I hated about my 426. I do like the reliability of the Yamaha, and would definitley get another if it was alot lighter. I'd like to hear from anyone who has ridden the 426 and now a 05 450.

Thanks for your input


426 vs 450 - you will like the 450 better
CRF 3sec faster - then buy it!
Suzuki has everything I hated about 426 - buy the Suzuki ....the YZF450 is a more refined lighter 426......





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