exactly like the kawis right? How are they? are there notorious problems like the valves on hondas or what. im asking this because i have found a very good prive and am wondering if its worth it

They are the same bike has the kawi, i dont know anything else about them though.

They are the same bike Kawasaki, produces them all just a different color plastic. They are known to have valve problems, we have exploded one motor from a dropped valve not sure why it wasn't maintaince but many other people haven't had a problem...All the new thumpers require more care than the 2-stroke and you have to watch the valves. Hope this helps.

i think ill just spring for the yamaha at only about 400 dollars more, thanks anyways