Electric start for yz400f?

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  • insane_JD

Posted 30 June 2001 - 09:01 PM

#1


Does anyone know where (and how much) I can get one?
Happy trails,
Jordan :)

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  • z4me

Posted 30 June 2001 - 01:56 PM

#2

France - about $1500 USD.

...maybe getting the routine down is a better idea.

- Sean

  • insane_JD

Posted 30 June 2001 - 02:09 PM

#3

Thanks Z4me.
Happy trails,
Jordan :)
(PS)Do you know a good routine?

  • BikeDestroyer

Posted 30 June 2001 - 04:27 PM

#4

You could just buy a KTM!!!

  • osheen

Posted 30 June 2001 - 05:50 PM

#5

I think that I'm going to make a video on starting 4 strokes and start selling them. I don't ever have a problem starting any 4 stroke.

  • insane_JD

Posted 01 July 2001 - 07:41 AM

#6

Osheen, do you think you could give me some pointer's?
I appreciate it,
Jordan :)

  • Bill

Posted 01 July 2001 - 09:43 PM

#7

JD,

Never touch the throttle prior to starting the bike. Some people "blip" the throttle and kick it over with the compression release in, to "prime" the bike. Try the following procedure first and if it does not work, try the blip method. Be careful the blip method is only for stone cold bikes.

Turn on the fuel
kick the bike very easy unitl the kickstarter doesn't want to move.
Pull the compression release in and move the kickstarter NO MORE than 1"
Pull the choke, let the kickstarter back to the top and kick it as hard as you can.

If you jetting is correct, the bike will fire. Mine starts every time with one or two kicks :) Then when warmed up, will light w/no choke.

Bill

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  • osheen

Posted 01 July 2001 - 11:29 AM

#8

In addition to what Bill said, When you kick it, make sure that you follow through with a full kick. Don't stab at it like a 2 stroke. Another thing that I do most of the time is pull the comp release lever in and kick the bike over several times NO throttle. Then go ahead and find comp stroke and start as normal.
Only if the bike is WAY hot do I ever use the hot start button.

If you crash or tip over and you are having trouble restarting. Open the throtlle wide open with comp lever pulled and kick it through a bunch of times (ten or so). Then try normal procedure.

See if that helps.
Good Luck.

  • insane_JD

Posted 01 July 2001 - 12:40 PM

#9

Thank you guys for all your help :)!
Happy trails,
Jordan :D

  • Leroy_Shook_4_stroke_A

Posted 04 July 2001 - 06:08 AM

#10

Try all the starting methods in the world on this one. Youve just raced a muddy GNCC for 2 hours 45 minutes. Your on the last lap on a nasty uphill off camber leaning toward the kick starter, its slick and you hit a root and stall because your going slow and your goal is to get up that hill, bike is near the boiling point and your camelback has been empty for a lap. And your leading 4 stroke "A". Now since your so tired from fighting the mud so far, please someone tell me that it is going to start within a kick or two, did I mention that it has fallen over on the downward side of the hill now. Do we want an electric starter or do we want a kick starter???? By the way, mine starts everytime as well but some situations I wish it was electric. Also, I owned a DRZ for 3 days before selling....in a word..junk.... but lately a DRZ has been lapping us.

leroy

  • SUnruh

Posted 04 July 2001 - 06:57 AM

#11

leroy,
man-o-man i know that situation (though not that long a race).
1) you open the TerryCable hot start
2) find neutral (if possible)
3) find tdc and begin the ritual
4) hopefully it fired in 1 or 2 kicks (don't happen for me when i hit a tree though)
5) decomp for 4+ kicks
6) now heret is new and an experimental tip, but what helped me fire it in one kick last weekend. open the throttle a tiny amount. like 1/16th of a turn. now kick it. mine fired up after 6 kicks had already been tried and after the decomp clearout. stock jetting, fuel screw at 2.0 out, temp in the 80's, 20 miles into the race.
7) close the hot start and motor on.
8) take a big gasp of air because i'm sure you are tired. the mud races i was in were killer on the energy.

[This message has been edited by SUnruh (edited 07-04-2001).]

  • Leroy_Shook_4_stroke_A

Posted 05 July 2001 - 12:43 PM

#12

If anyone ever needs justification for an electric starter, come ride with me for a weekend. We have nothing her but good ole mud roots and rocks. I never have any trouble starting though, knock on wood.

  • randyWRF

Posted 05 July 2001 - 04:21 PM

#13

Hey guys check this out..Jordan listen up... My bike's always been a bitch to start. Especially when you dump it.(or hit a tree)hehe I raised the idle real high last weekend and a miracle happened! it actually starts 1st kick now EVERY TIME! I mean I'm up into the ign. advance..you could run in 3rd over baseball size rock gardens without touching the throttle! I had a MAJOR problem stalling that thing on up-hills and rocks but now, to me of course the bike's much easier to ride in the real tight stuff. The best thing was I only stalled it twice and both times it fired right up. Also, I don't know if any of you have tried this but I put the comp. release on the right side. It's easier for me to grab one lever in each hand and fire the thing up one shot. It seems to save time having to find neutral. Hey, try it ..I know it works for me. Randy

  • Tex_Labo

Posted 11 July 2001 - 08:29 AM

#14

Leroy...Isn't calling the DRZ "junk" a little harsh? I don't want to start the whole "DRZ v.s. YZF" argument...it's just a different bike. Of course I wish it was about 30 pounds lighter...and I wish it had the YZ suspension. However, if you're not a die-hard racer, the DRZ has electric start (...I've faced that stalled on a hill thing. Just hit the button before you even put your feet down and go!), fires every time with ease, has decent power, and is durable and hassle free. I figure $355 for suspension mods at RG3, learn to live with the weight, and you're golden.

I race mine in Cross Country and run up front in the 4-stroke class...ahead of a LOT of 426's...so the bike isn't "junk"...it's just a little less serious. And that's okay for some of us.

Labo
'01 DRZ-E

  • WR_Jason

Posted 11 July 2001 - 11:29 AM

#15

HEY! Whol let that DRZ guy in here???? GET HIM!!!,,,, just kiddin, sorry you had to here the junk thing tex, its just an opinion of a guy that obviosly perfers the blue beast and would rather live with its short commings than try to fix the DRZ's. And just because there are 426's behind you really dose not say much about the bike, I am sure you know that rider ability on a YZ 80 will prevail over a beginner on a YZ 426. He did say he was getting passed by someone on a DRZ, although it may just be a blue wolf in yellow sheeps plastic! :) eheheh, jsut kidding.

  • Leroy_Shook_4_stroke_A

Posted 11 July 2001 - 02:59 PM

#16

Ok, let me restate that as to not get the whole Ford Chevy thing started again children. I owned Husky 4 strokes for years and did wonderful on them. They were heavy, slow, poorly carborated, hateful hard to start pieces of....."WORK". It took me years to figure that out. I owned a DRZ for 3 days and figured out that they were behind the Husky on the evolution ladder. At least the Husky had suspension that worked in nearly all environments and not just on a gravel parking lot. So, not to offend anyone, "I could not race a DRZ because all of the electric starting ability cannot make up for the lack of otherwise important qualities that I need in order to race it. I would just buy a Husky and start there which would be two steps higher than a DRZ since Honda is behind Husky. At least its ahead of KTM" Is that better??? By the way, I cut 20 seconds off per lap on a Husky this weekend from my YZ times. Reason I dont own a Husky is because they drag their feet on my money. I am sorry for the offense taken on my comment of junk.

  • Tex_Labo

Posted 12 July 2001 - 06:13 AM

#17

LOL...no offense taken Leroy. I believe the YZ is a better race bike than the DRZ...easily. Truth be told, I'm a big fan of the YZF series...it took serious nads for Yamaha to pitch a line of 4-strokes when the general consensus (...albeit wrong) was that dirt bikes needed to be 2-strokes to be fast. I looked hard at the YZ, but in the end, I chose the DRZ for 2 reasons... 1. The YZ was about $1,000 more and 2. I intended to make it street legal so I could ride to the trails, and maybe take the lights back off to run the occasional cross-country race.

So in the end, after the light kit ($370) and suspension mods ($355), I saved around $250, and while it's not a KILLER race bike, it's pretty capable and trouble free.

Therefore, I'm not the enemy...I love the YZFs, but I love my DRZ too. And besides...I have a sense of humor about all this...remember, a day spent riding is always a good day. I don't care if it's riding an XR-80...it's all good.

Labo
'01 DRZ-E

  • insane_JD

Posted 12 July 2001 - 12:04 PM

#18

I like your point of view :).
Happy trails,
Jordan

  • Leroy_Shook_4_stroke_A

Posted 12 July 2001 - 03:24 PM

#19

You guys are more than welcome to come over and ride with me any weekend. How far from Winchester VA are you. Having ridden nearly every new bike availabe, 2 stroke and 4, there are several I like. For instance, Yam 250 2 st., KTM 250EXC, 2000 Husky 410, and yes, the DRZ. I am off to purchase a new 2001 426 tomorrow. I am lucky enough to have the connections to be able to ride almost anything and most of the time buy what I want. However, when it comes down to it, I have to buy something that the White Brothers catalog can outfit for sponsorship reasons, a million parts for YZ and few for DRZ and an air filter for a Husky. Get that point as well. If you guys are close to me, come on over, we can break that YZ in on Sunday.

  • SUnruh

Posted 12 July 2001 - 03:40 PM

#20

leroy,
you are going to the big bore?
wow!
man, at the end of 3 hours of racing let me know how much you *REALLY* like that extra 30+lbs of dry weight! :)
of course, in the straights, there is not much that can pass you also. in the mud that motor can be a blessing (just twist and hang on) and bain (get a crane to pull it out).
have fun!



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