I just finished our desert race series yesterday, and my hands are hamburger. I am not really interested in low speed damping, just something to soak up the impacts from rocks and hardpack...
Anyone have experience with WER vs the SCOTTS damper??
steering dampers -- which one to get??
Started by crazyYammi, Nov 22 2004 09:50 AM
25 replies to this topic
Posted 22 November 2004 - 09:50 AM
I just finished our desert race series yesterday, and my hands are hamburger. I am not really interested in low speed damping, just something to soak up the impacts from rocks and hardpack...
Anyone have experience with WER vs the SCOTTS damper??
Posted 22 November 2004 - 02:12 PM
Go with the GPR...I love mine. I have it on both my KTM250 and my quad...Kaw V-Force. I wouldn't ride without one.
Posted 22 November 2004 - 04:51 PM
There is only one to get IMHO.
www.gprstabilizer.com
I am racing the Dakar Rallye next month - a 5,000 mile 15 day race across the Sahara. I have raced Baja 1000's with both Scotts and GPR V1 and V2--so i have some idea how they perform in the real world. I am going to go with the V2 GPR!!
It fits under the bars, out of harms way (unlike many Scotts applications). Its super simple to adjust while riding (unlike the WER)---and unlike either it comes with a lifetime guarentee!
Add in the fact that its available in the KTM Hard Parts catalogue, made in San Diego by an a 2 wheel enthusiast family, available in 5 colors, and cheaper than the WER or Scotts--and its a no brainer!!!
GPR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
www.gprstabilizer.com
I am racing the Dakar Rallye next month - a 5,000 mile 15 day race across the Sahara. I have raced Baja 1000's with both Scotts and GPR V1 and V2--so i have some idea how they perform in the real world. I am going to go with the V2 GPR!!
It fits under the bars, out of harms way (unlike many Scotts applications). Its super simple to adjust while riding (unlike the WER)---and unlike either it comes with a lifetime guarentee!
Add in the fact that its available in the KTM Hard Parts catalogue, made in San Diego by an a 2 wheel enthusiast family, available in 5 colors, and cheaper than the WER or Scotts--and its a no brainer!!!
GPR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 22 November 2004 - 04:53 PM
Scott's...often imitated, never duplicated! Only damper to be a hands down winner in ANY magazine!
Posted 22 November 2004 - 09:19 PM
The only tools you need to buy for the GPR is some WD-40 and rag...
Posted 23 November 2004 - 06:39 AM
KTM265 said:
Only thing to maintain on the GPR is dusting it off...Can't say that about any of the others. I'm not knocking Scotts but the price is a lot more and you have to send it to them for service and that isn't cheap either. Bang for the buck is GPR.
Umm, no
The Scotts is completely maintainable in the users garage,, The manual is downloadable,, and you can call for any help needed. The Tech folks will walk you through any issues your having. From a simple oil change ( no disassembly needed) to complete refurbish.
As for which is better? Personal preference for sure. I prefer the Scotts for the Free return to center (unlike the GPR which damps both ways) And the outstanding customer service.
Posted 23 November 2004 - 06:55 AM
Scotts makes a great dampner, I've used one for years with only a few problems, I had it on a couple of bikes. I now have a GPR which I like. To be totally honest, I can't really tell the difference. My GPR is orange with a big knob in the center and was 100.00 cheaper than the Scotts, for me that's nice. One thing to think about is the company. Everytime I go to Scotts they seem a bit on the unpersonal side, they've never given me a break on anything no matter how many thousands I've spent with them.. Then you have GPR, I've seen their rig at EVERY Best in the Desert Race I've entered, helping racers out, servicing dampners for free and giving out huge discounts with free installs, all with smiles on their faces.... To me, GPR knows how to treat people... I would buy a GPR without a question... Great product with great people backing it..
Dan
Dan
Posted 23 November 2004 - 06:56 AM
KTM265 said:
The only tools you need to buy for the GPR is some WD-40 and rag...
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4. How often should I get my GPR Stabilizer serviced?
A:Once every couple of years is fine, but only if the stabilizer feels like it is not damping correctly or if it is not a smooth action throughout the stroke. You may have to get your damper serviced more frequently if you race or ride every weekend instead of once per month. We have riders w/ stabilizers out there that have not been serviced in 2 to 3 years and they are still performing as if they were brand new. Once you get used to your damper you will know when it's time to service it yourself or send it to us for a service
A:Once every couple of years is fine, but only if the stabilizer feels like it is not damping correctly or if it is not a smooth action throughout the stroke. You may have to get your damper serviced more frequently if you race or ride every weekend instead of once per month. We have riders w/ stabilizers out there that have not been serviced in 2 to 3 years and they are still performing as if they were brand new. Once you get used to your damper you will know when it's time to service it yourself or send it to us for a service
There goes that myth
Posted 23 November 2004 - 06:59 AM
Dan_Lorenze said:
Scotts makes a great dampner, I've used one for years with only a few problems, I had it on a couple of bikes. I now have a GPR which I like. To be totally honest, I can't really tell the difference. My GPR is orange with a big knob in the center and was 100.00 cheaper than the Scotts, for me that's nice. One thing to think about is the company. Everytime I go to Scotts they seem a bit on the unpersonal side, they've never given me a break on anything no matter how many thousands I've spent with them.. Then you have GPR, I've seen their rig at EVERY Best in the Desert Race I've entered, helping racers out, servicing dampners for free and giving out huge discounts with free installs, all with smiles on their faces.... To me, GPR knows how to treat people... I would buy a GPR without a question... Great product with great people backing it..
Dan
Dan
Great reply,,,,
If perceived feeling is the same,, with better price, and in your experience better customer service/ appreciation.. The choice should be easy
Basically the same reasons I use Scott’s
Posted 23 November 2004 - 08:05 AM
GPR = USA Made. Ultra quick turn around 'should' something fail. They just send out a new one and rebuild the old one. Plus for 05, they are coming out with thumb adjuster on handlebar. And did I mention they are stock on 05 KTMs.
Posted 23 November 2004 - 08:32 AM
Husky_Forever said:
GPR = USA Made. Ultra quick turn around 'should' something fail. They just send out a new one and rebuild the old one. Plus for 05, they are coming out with thumb adjuster on handlebar. And did I mention they are stock on 05 KTMs.
???? Stock, do they come with the bike????
Posted 23 November 2004 - 08:52 AM
Dust_Devil said:
???? Stock, do they come with the bike????
Yup.. I'm not willing to go KTM.. (YET),, But I'll admit,, they build there bikes with some sweet parts. I'd pay more for (insert name here, Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki) if/when they used more top of the line bits and pieces.
On the other hand,, some of those pieces (bars, dampers) are a personal choice,, And spending less on cheap OEM parts on initial buy in,, means it's not such a hit to replace with your preferred aftermarket part.
Two edged sword for sure.
