250 or 450? Hear my situation...


10 replies to this topic
  • Rattdog

Posted November 18, 2004 - 04:10 PM

#1

ok. I am ready to get a new bike. I have an 01 YZ250f now. Great bike, nice power. I am sticking with Yam but am unsure if I should get the 250F or the 450F. I ride 40% track 60% woods. 190 lbs, 6'1". I am a good athlete and I am confident on my bike and getting better. I have been riding for 2 yrs and can stick with the pack.

Will the 450f be too much on the trail considering I do a lot of waiting & slowing for my wife and neighbors kid. (BUT you know I will love the 450F on the track!!)

OR

Do I get another 250f which is sure to have power gains over my current 250F. I will suit me better on the single track trails that I ride on. (BUT you know I will be wishing I had the 450f on the track)

Which is the lesser of two evils?

HELP!!!! :cry:

  • ThrakenH04

Posted November 18, 2004 - 04:23 PM

#2

Seems like your going with the 250f from your signature. In my opinion, I would go for the 450f if your looking to keep it for awhile because your crew is only going to keep getting faster and better. I own a 450 but I was also taking into consideration the 250f and so far Im loving my choise. I've been riding for 3 years and I've riddin every 250f and 450f out there and I ended up going with Yamaha(didn't see that one coming). I would go for the 450f mainly because since your already used to the 250f, why not more power? :cry: Not only faster and alot more brute torque, but the 450f also go alot longer on a top-end as well. Just my 2 cents.

  • RAMARION

Posted November 18, 2004 - 05:44 PM

#3

IMHO, the new 05 450 would be a Great Bike. They say the power has SMOOTHED out. My 450 rode like my (light/nimble) 250F, with twice the BEASTLY power..............

  • sjwr450

Posted November 18, 2004 - 06:54 PM

#4

I can only say that I ride my 250 on tighter stuff and the 450 on the faster stuff. Even then I would like to time myself. The 250 may be faster. I have rode the 450 in 1 race and the 250 in three. Everytime I finish a race on the 250 i wonder why I would want to race the 450. BUT the 450 is a great training tool and very fun to ride.

Hard choice good luck!

  • gonzo

Posted November 18, 2004 - 07:15 PM

#5

I'm faster on my 250F than my 450. It's just easier to go fast on for me. Its really depenedant on the rider. If your in the woods alot though I would think a 250F would be better. Or even (uh oh) a 250 2-stroke. The 450 is sort of a bear to turn. Its a great bike on wide open tracks but I don't know for woods. I like the 250F because I can rev the crap out of it and the handling is better.

As for the power the 05 feels just like my 03 does after I smoothed it out myself. I put a FMF exhaust and a 6oz flywheel weight on it. Feels the same and is quite perfect.

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  • Rattdog

Posted November 18, 2004 - 07:29 PM

#6

Good info... keep it coming.

I know it may seem that I made my mind up given my signature below :cry: but believe me. My mind is not made up. I should be getting a call next week from my local dealer to inform me that an 05 250f has my name on it if I want it... but now I am thinking that I may be able to get a better deal on a new 04/450f and have a whole bunch of power to dig at if I want it.

So please tell me more about and 04 450f vs 01 250F... are the weights similar? Given that my current 01 is the first of the 250 thumpers I know a lot has changed... could that mean that my 250 is about the same weight ads the 04/450f? Could the handling be the same or similar? I am just curious if the unrefined 01 250F could be on par with an 04 450f.

Can you tell that I want the 450 but I am just looking for a REALLY good reason? Cmon, help me make the case. Isnt bigger better?! :cry:

  • Rattdog

Posted November 18, 2004 - 08:34 PM

#7

Ya know, I think I will add another question that might help this situation... Is a 450f harder to jump than a 250f? Getting air is fun and I keep getting better and better. Will a 450 feel like a load in the air? Not that I am a freestyler or anything but will I notice a difference?

Thanks

  • yzf450jack

Posted November 18, 2004 - 08:50 PM

#8

Go with the 250f and get a 300cc cylinder for it :cry: The 450 will wear you out

  • SureBlue

Posted November 19, 2004 - 12:33 AM

#9

Go with the 250f and get a 300cc cylinder for it :cry: The 450 will wear you out


I have to agree. Unless you are a top level athlete rider.
I stopped getting younger at 19, and I stopped getting stronger at 36.
Now at 44 I know a 250 would be right for me, but just can't let go.
The 450 puts a smile on your face, but kills you compared with 250. The difference is big, especially on tight terrain. I have tested it numerous times.
What's the use of smiling if you're dog meat?

  • ovrrdrive

Posted November 19, 2004 - 05:14 AM

#10

I say get the 450. But then again, I'm an adrenaline junky. :cry:

Everytime I twist the throttle it makes me smile.

The waiting on the trail thing sucks though. I have to do it with my wife. Heck, I end up going three or four turns then turning the bike off and waiting for her to pass. Then I fire it up, go three or four turns and kill it again. I'm always afraid I'll overheat it if I don't turn it off.

Needless to say we don't ride trails together very often... I look for more open spots where I can keep an eye on her without having to babysit . ')

  • beezer

Posted November 19, 2004 - 07:07 AM

#11

Buy both bikes.





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