Electrical start



8 replies to this topic
  • henq

Posted May 03, 2002 - 09:29 PM

#1

Has anybody added an electrical starter to their XR650R? Is it even possible?

  • raultech

Posted May 06, 2002 - 10:43 AM

#2

In all honesty, I do not know why you would want to do that. I just picked mine up a little while ago, and heck I can usually kick it over in two tries. I have not even found a need for the decrompression lever.

I can also tell you that I purchased my wife the TTR-250 for just that reason. While she likes it, I do not. I have had to recharge her battery several times, because she forgets to turn the key off. I will not blame her for this as this is the only bike of the four that we have, that it is an issue. She has already asked about converting it to kick start for fear that we are going to make our way out to the desert and she will be dead, or I will be pushing.

  • HOOLPE

Posted May 07, 2002 - 05:38 AM

#3

If the bike is completely stock, they can be hard
to kick, but once I opened my bike up with the kit
and pipe I can start with my sandals on. If you
made your wife push the bike she would learn real
fast to turn the key off. J/K, I have the same
problem with my girlfriend. She forgets to turn the key off all of the time on her Raptor.

  • hourout

Posted May 07, 2002 - 11:52 AM

#4

i don't know why honda did not put one on stock? or a pumper carb for that matter. mine is uncorked and runs like a champ untill the unfortunet get off. as soon as she hits the ground it floods out. that sucks and has realy killed my score in enduros.. :D i end up kicking my butt off for at least 3 minutes to get it lit and buy that time im to tired to ride the damm thing. :D also the rear break tab is cheasey and breaks off regardless of the break snake. :) but the 650L ( a road bike) has a folding tip, go figure. :D some times i don't get what honda was thinking. rule of thumb, if its going to flood put a button on it. :D

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  • henq

Posted May 09, 2002 - 05:03 AM

#5

Well as you say it is pretty easy to start normally but a beast if you drop it. Any advice how to start it after it flooded? Kicked it maybe 10 min today :)

  • HOOLPE

Posted May 09, 2002 - 05:29 AM

#6

Hold the throttle wide open and kick it over. I've found this to be the quickest method to starting it (or any other bike) after I've dropped it.

  • qadsan

Posted May 09, 2002 - 07:03 AM

#7

Originally posted by henq:
...Any advice how to start it after it flooded? Kicked it maybe 10 min today :)


Here's some procedures I've collected along the way on starting a flooded XR650R that some people swear by. Personally, I got sick of the stock carb and bought the Edelbrock pumper carb. My bike now usually starts 1st kick when hot, cold or when dumped. Fuel no longer runs out all over the place when my bike is on it's side thanks to this carb's internal fuel cell and the throttle response is greatly improved when you whack open the throttle from down low. Hopefully one of the following starting drills will make things easier for you. Of all the methods listed, method 1 & 3 are the ones I've been accustomed to and have successfully used with various four stroke bikes.

*** METHOD 1 ***
1) Hold the throttle wide open
2) Press and hold the Kill Switch
3) Engage the compression release
4) Kick it briskly 10 times
5) Close the throttle, let off the kill switch and the compression release
6) Now try starting it as you normally do (with no throttle)
7) If it doesn't start within 3 kicks, go back to step one

*** METHOD 2 ***
1) Hold the throttle wide open
2) Engage the compression release
3) Kick it briskly until it pops through the exhaust (excess fuel burning out)
4) Close the throttle, let off the kill switch and the compression release
5) Now try starting it as you normally do (with no throttle)
6) If it doesn't start within 3 kicks, go back to step one
* If your left leg gets warm during this, it may be from a small fire inside your airbox

*** METHOD 3 ***
1) Turn off the fuel at the petcock immediately after you've dumped it
2) Engage the compression release
3) Hold the throttle wide open
4) Push on kill switch
5) Kick through 6-10 times
6) Close the throttle
7) Turn on the fuel at the petcock
8) Grab the front brake lever (this helps to keep your hand off the throttle!)
9) Release kill switch
10) Kick through as above, but with a good smooth stroke.
11) If your bike didn't start, keep kicking with smooth strokes until it does

*** METHOD 4 ***
1) Turn off the fuel a the petcock immediately after you've dumped it
2) Do not touch the throttle
3) Do not engage the compression release
4) Bring engine to TDC and allows kickstarter to return to the top
5) Hold the throttle wide open
6) Kick hard until it starts
7) Once it's running, turn on the fuel

*** METHOD 5 ***
1) Turn off the fuel at the petcock immediately after you've dumped it
2) Hold the throttle wide open
3) Engage the kill switch and keep it engaged
4) Kick through 6 times with the compression release engaged
5) Turn on the fuel again at the petcock
6) Start as you normally do with no throttle

*** METHOD 6 ***
1) Place the choke on full
2) Engage the compression release
3) Press and hold the kill switch
4) Hold the throttle wide open
5) Kick the through 4-5 times
6) Let go of everything
7) Turn the choke off and do not touch the throttle
8) Find TDC and give it a good kick without giving it any throttle

*** METHOD 7 ***
1) Hold throttle wide open
2) Engage the compression release
3) Kick through 20 times
4) Start as normal without using any throttle

*** METHOD 8 ***
1) Put the choke on full
2) Find TDC
3) Engage the compression release and push it BARELY past the hard spot
4) Let the kick starter return to the top of its stroke
5) PUSH the kick all the way down and your bike will start (notice that I said PUSH...it is not a kick, it should be a strong PUSH)

*** METHOD 9 ***
1) Turn off the fuel at the petcock
2) Hold the throttle wide open
3) Engage the compression release
4) Kick through 5 times
5) Turn the fuel back on at the petcock
6) Find TDC and kick with no throttle

  • henq

Posted May 09, 2002 - 09:51 PM

#8

Thanks! I'll try some of these next time...

  • radar_ridr

Posted May 09, 2002 - 10:23 AM

#9

jeeze, qadsan, you could only come up with 9 methods? Come on, do some research, give the guy a few options maybe!! :)





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