XR to WR
Posted September 25, 2004 - 11:10 PM
I'm considering a few bikes
XR 400 : Tricked out with 440, supension upgrades, maybe a cam.
WR's 250, bore it out to 280 or whatever the size is.
400, 426, 450 : keep em stock, maybe a pipe or mx rear fender, skid plate.
Or perhaps a YZF 400, 426, 450: Heavier flywheel and WR cam.
I'm trying to get a bike that fits my riding tendancies the best. I know how an XR 400 handles, it's just heavier and more power.
I was looking to get some input from you Blue riders. Are the WR's good for this type of riding or do they like more open terain? Can a YZF be made into a decent woods bike (don't realy care about the lights)?
Any info you guys could give me would be great as i have never ridden the newer designed fourstrokes (can't realy count a new XR as a new design). Any suggestions on what model would be the best bet with regards to issues, pros and cons would be appreciated.
I'll have a chance to ride a yzf426 (all stock) in the near future but I'm not sure if that will give me an accurate comparison to what I'm after.
Posted September 26, 2004 - 07:04 AM
The WR is a mean machine.
Posted September 26, 2004 - 08:10 AM
Posted September 26, 2004 - 05:49 PM
Posted September 26, 2004 - 07:11 PM
Are their any things to look out for when buying the WR's? For example problems with certain years or things to look for that could be wrong with the bike. Is their anything that needs to be done to thees bikes if the previous owner or dealer has not done to them?
Posted September 26, 2004 - 07:20 PM
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Posted September 27, 2004 - 02:07 AM
Posted September 27, 2004 - 11:41 AM
I know their is an electric start and the larger bore will have some more power but what about ergonomics, weight ridability?
Posted September 27, 2004 - 08:14 PM
As many TT'ers told me, (and I since found out) don't waste your money on an XR - you'll regret it. Stick with the new technology of the WR.
I think the question you should be asking is what size WR to buy. I have a 01 426 and it is a tall bike (I am 6'05" 245 lbs. - do you see why I hated my XR250?) so it fits me well. Although, it is an easy bike to ride. I was a little nervous about the rumored power but after 1 ride on the dirt I realized it was totaly untrue. The bike is easier to ride than my XR250. I always felt like my front tire is going to wash out on the XR250 (my buddies XR400 was the same way) but not with the WR - the suspension eats everything up.
Anyhow, PM me if you have any questions. TT'ers were a tremendous help when I was deciding what kind of bike to get and I would love to return the favor.
Posted September 27, 2004 - 10:58 PM
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Posted October 01, 2004 - 08:36 AM
I thought that the WR might be too big/fast for me, as I am not a high-speed rider and like riding single track trails and fireroads up to back country lakes.
The seat it not and "comfy" as my XR but I would rather spend $80 on a gel seat then spend $500+ on suspension plus $$$ to re-bore so that it will accomodate my increasing riding skills and demands.
I bought a 01 WR426 after SERIOUSLY considering the XR400. I am SO glad that I bought the WR. Like I said on my previous post my buddy has an XR and, although I would never tell him this, after riding his bike and mine right after each other I felt a HUGE relief knowing that I had absolutley bought the right bike.
Regarding the XR650: I rode one before and in my opinion it is too heavy and has too much torque for tight single track trails.
Give serious thought to the WR's you will not regret it. However you may eventually regret the XR.
Posted October 01, 2004 - 11:49 AM
I'm in Oregon too, did I mention it's street legal?
Posted October 02, 2004 - 06:48 AM
Posted October 05, 2004 - 12:08 PM
I am also thinking of getting a new(er) bike. Just sold my XR600R and am thinking of either the XR650R or the WR426/450. I ride woods and desert singletrack, jeep roads and even fire roads and would need a license plate (easy here in AZ), I'm an intermediate rider with limited riding time (6'3" 205lbs). I also ride with my kids a lot. I am used to having a bulletproof bike (low maintenance and almost no repair). Have read quite a bit about the 03 WR450 and the woodruff key issues (I understand a lot has to do with the jetting being too lean). Also had a discussion with an acquaintance of mine about his WR400(98 OR 99 I think he said). He had a portion of the carb slide break off and go through his engine. Not much damage to the engine but almost $1000 for a new carb??? Can I comfortably ride a WR all day, say 125 miles as easy as my XR? Or is the nature of the WR too aggressive? Sounds like a WR426 is about 25 lbs lighter than the XR650R but is it too much for my needs???? I do like big power!! But I'm not sure I need a 12,000 RPM bike.
For what you are looking for and the riding you mention the 650R would be a logical progression, with unsurpassed reliability and power. It feels much more nimble then the old 600, particularly in the single track and is more stable and composed as the speeds progress. After five years with one I'm looking to trade also and have been considering the WR-450. But having ridden a few, the WR400/450 series just doesn't feel 25 lbs lighter then the 650R. At least up until now perhaps. The actual weight figure isn't bad, but they carry it rather high. Don't flame me, check out :
From what I'm hearing about the updates to the 2005, Yamaha is addressing this issue, and it might finally be the one for me, with some serious effort to lower the weight from a C of G perspective. If apples are being compared to apples, the 244 lb 05' wr450 is about ten pounds lighter then the soon to be released CRF450X Honda! They have my attention! Check out http://www.dirtrider...41_0406_2005wr/
Posted October 05, 2004 - 12:42 PM
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