650R vs. KX500
Posted July 18, 2004 - 03:39 PM
Posted July 18, 2004 - 04:23 PM
It is true the KX500 is faster and a better desert bike It just requires more maintanance and sometimes at the wrong time and if your not worried about fixing it you will have one balls to the wall bike The green team has the money to make it stay together where most just can't pull that off.
It is a major thrill to ride or race....when you pull the throtle your gone if you can shift fast enough .....when in fifth it will stand straight up when ever you want it to. The problem I have with it.....the BRP fix's to a point. Once it(KX500)starts to get just a little tight it becomes a monster in a cage and just wants out There is just sooooooooo much that it need lots of room.When the power comes on it's on....all of it. The BRP is way more controlable, even power, low, high, where ever.... but, has the draw back of the extra weight. If your a weekend worrior the KX500 gets to be a pain, inless you only play in the wide open. If you cut your teeth on the KX500 it's hard to be scared of anything.........I loved it when I was young and stupid....but, now that I am old and stupid I think I can make a pig fly
The biggest draw back that the KX500 has is that it's GREEN
Green because you spend so much money keeping it running that it turns green.
I hate the green party.
Posted July 18, 2004 - 04:47 PM
The other reason I can think of is comfort. The BRP is much more comfortable (at least for me). Then again, the KX500 is a motocross bike, and the BRP is a track bike.
If your going to get a 500, at least get the Service Honda CR500AF. For what it looses in price, it makes up in reliability over the green machine, as well as far supperior handling in tighter situations.
Posted July 18, 2004 - 05:22 PM
Posted July 18, 2004 - 05:41 PM
Posted July 18, 2004 - 06:41 PM
1. The KX500 IS quicker than the XR650R, but the XR is
faster at top speed (both being geared stock)
2. Both bikes seem to be extremely reliable, I've never had
any problems with either bike.
3. Powerband: XR is smooth as silk and predictable (but
still brutally powerful), and easy to control
KX is the opposite; the power (all of it), is
either "on", or it is not "on". In other words
this bike is a light switch. Bike is extremely
fun to ride but requires practice and skill.
4. Comfort: I have to give the KX the nod here, since it's
nice, soft seat, and soft, plush suspension make
it very comfortable to ride. Vibration is
horrible however, and will tire your hands after
The XR's seat is hard as a rock and the bike
rides pretty rough. But, since there is almost
no vibration, the XR is not really tiring, even
with the hard seat and rough ride.
5. Streetability: The XR wins here hands down; it makes an
excellent dual sport bike and works well
on the street.
The KX, well I wouldn't have the balls to
even try riding that thing on pavement,
which would mean full traction, and I
don't think I want to know what the KX500
will do with full traction, thanks, but
no thanks. The bike is just too light and
high strung to risk that, in my opinion.
Overall, if you want a good, reliable, and very powerful bike that you can use for dual sporting, GET THE XR650R! Trust me, it's got PLENTY of power, it's reliable, and can be made street legal very easily!
Posted July 18, 2004 - 07:19 PM
Posted July 19, 2004 - 02:23 PM
The XR650R is the most reliable and maintenence free bike you will ever get except for maybe the air cooled XRs.
The KX500 can be made to work like a four stroke almost. There are tricks that do not cost a lot to tame its power a bit and make it easier to ride. It then becomes an awsome trail bike. My KX500 is dual sported but I never ride it on any roads except logging roads which require dual sporting. And then I only do this to get from one single track trail head to another.
If your after a bike that cost very little to maintain, is easy to ride, even in single track, once you train yourself to ride a heavier bike in the tight stuff. Get the XR650R.
If maintainence is not issue and you can afford it, get the 525. My preference for the most amount of fun, own all three.
Posted July 19, 2004 - 02:31 PM
My preference for the most amount of fun, own all three.
He does have a point!
Posted July 19, 2004 - 02:37 PM
Posted July 19, 2004 - 03:59 PM
I just want something that will flat out haul ass on fireroads type riding and is pretty dependable.
Then you're all set...Get the XR650R. There's a fire road waiting for you...
Posted July 19, 2004 - 05:40 PM
Posted July 19, 2004 - 05:49 PM
As far as how long you can ride a 650R before the engine needs to be rebuilt, well, I can tell you this much. My bike has over 5,000 miles on it, much of that on the street, and no, I have not "babied" the engine, I run it hard because it's fun! But I do maintain it religiously. As of right now, it still does not need rings, compression is still great, and I've kept the valves adjusted on schedule (but most of the time they didn't even need it, or needed only very minor adjustment). And I do believe that frequent oil changes and air filter cleanings are very important.
It's a very reliable engine, keep in mind it's just a single cam, four valve design, nothing too fancy here. But it runs like a big block 454, torque, torque, and more torque! And it's not that "soft" torque like the 650L, it's a very abrupt, chunky type of power, beginning right off idle at the slightest crack of the throttle. You'll like it.
Posted July 19, 2004 - 06:02 PM
Why email a federal agency to ask about state policy?
Wow, thanks. I have emailed the DOT office in Wyoming about their policy on converting the titles of offroad bikes to legal titles. I know here in california there are a ton of KX500s that have been made street legal since they used to be green sticker bikes and calis loophole allowed all green sticker to get tags and titles. I am very interested to see wyomings policy on this. The biggest two stroke I rode was a CR250 and it was snappy, I can't imagine riding that on the street let alone with 65hp coming on at once. How often does the 650R need to be torn downa nd rebuilt? I know honda put it on the dyo for 120 hours of wide open throttle testing or something brutal to that effect.
Posted July 19, 2004 - 07:46 PM
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