Posted July 22, 2002 - 02:47 AM
And besides, it is pretty quiet when compared to the 4-strokes, and noise is a concern at a couple of my practice tracks.
As I tell my friends, it is old technology but proven technology.
Also, I'll be ready when the 500 Nationals make a comeback! :-)
Western NY Motocross Association
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1994 Kawasaki KX500
1979 Yamaha YZ400
Posted July 22, 2002 - 01:37 PM
If someone is catching a 500 twostroke in a drag, the 500 has stock gearing. The open two strokes are usually undergeared. I geared mine 15-45. Flat out, thats over 110 mph. Why? Because it'll pull it
Posted July 24, 2002 - 03:13 AM
This year they released it with a headlight, indicators, chainguard, sidestand and longer muffler etc so u can legally register it!
Thats right, you can now fly down to the local shops in Australia to get the groceries on your street legal CR 500. Yamaha did a similar thing with the YZ 250.
Posted July 24, 2002 - 06:55 AM
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Posted July 25, 2002 - 08:16 AM
But then again, I havent rode one. I dont know. I do know that even on my 426 I have trouble controlling wheelspin, and tight woods is a handful, and the 426 is mild in comparison.
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Posted July 26, 2002 - 06:12 PM
Originally posted by bodge:
ive never ridden a cr/kx500 but heres why i would never buy a kx500. 1 i just dont trust kawasaki's machines 2 their cylinders really suck and they flake and destroy them selves forcing a sleeve or replate on a cr500 they have borable cylinders. 3 ive herd they blow headgaskets alot and lastly they look bad. also they have less power stock even w/ a powervalve when a cr500 dosnt.
Their cylinders really suck? You should have told me that before I bought my ’95. And my ’97. And my ’92. And my ’99. Where were ya when I needed ya bodge???
The KX motor should last much longer as it is Nikasil plated. Anybody that has to resort to boring a 500 is either an idiot, raced Baja, or very unlucky.
Yes they are ugly. Just don’t look at it. Try riding it instead.
The Honda is truly old-school in the motor dept, the KX in the ergos. Pick yer poison.
As for having less power than a CR, you are mistaken. I’ve ridden a ’99 CR many times and owned a ’99 KX. The power is comparable, the KX is understandably more tractable due to the power valve but they both have good mid and top. Overall I like the way the CR turns, but prefer the suspension, esp. the forks, as well as the motor on the KX.
IMO the bike pictured above is a very good alternative to shelling out seven grand or so for an AF CR (but my ’95 KX 250 didn’t turn either ).
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Posted August 02, 2002 - 07:40 PM
I have to sell my KX and it really hearts to see it go. Need the money. Selling for $3100. I wish I would of known about that custom frame written above before I bought my YZ cause I would of done that with my KX.
The KX did not like turns very well though. But you could go like 100 mph over woops. The suspension was really plush and it tracked perfectely straight. It would also climb any hill. Where the YZ seems like its going to run out of power or it stalls at the top or right before the top. Boy do I hate when the YZ stalls at the top or right before the top of a really nasty Arizona hill.
I won the new riders race/my first motorcross on the KX500.
Posted August 06, 2002 - 05:17 AM
I am anxiously awaiting delivery of a new 2002 KX500. I have owned two KX 500's and believe that they have been the best bike I have ever owned. I got away from the sport in 1990 and returned this year. I initially saught out a KX500 and was told a myriad of misinformation about it being discontinued, impossible to get, etc. FROM YOUR DEALERS. Therefore, I bought a 2002 Yamaha YZ426F. Well, I found out that not only are they still out there, but available. I have since sold my 426 and am ready for the 500. I really did like the Yamaha, but once you have been exposed to the type of power that exists in the 500 you are ruined for life--you always lust for it. If I were made of money, I would have 2 bikes--the Yamaha and the 500. The real reason for this email is that there is still a warm following out there for the bike. I believe that with minimal modernization and marketing, the bike could really be a hit. A change to the rear fender, seat/fuel tank interface would go a long way with minimal expense. People dog the bike until they ride it! In the era of constant change each year to keep ahead of the Jones's, it is a real testament to the design to see such an old design still be quite rideable and competitive.
I am enclosing a hyperlink that I hope someone in authority can view. It is a post on a forum dedicated to 4 STROKE BIKES! As you can see it is a very active discussion that shows a hearty respect for the bike in a audience with little regard for 2 strokes. The forum is called Thumpertalk.com and here is the hyperlink:
Posted August 06, 2002 - 05:35 AM
Mark L and his bro Jeff are friends of mine and run the club I belong to. Jeff's bike is the one I was talking about with blue plastics and Yellow frame.
Q) Will the different properties of chrome moly, when compared to the stock 250 frame material, result in a chassis with different handling characteristics? Can you convince me that this bike will handle, say, 75% the same as a KX 250?
A) The different properties of chrome moly affect handling to a lesser degree than the added horsepower and mass of the 500 engine. Chrome moly is stiffer, coupled with the torsional rigidity of round tube as opposed to the stock rectangular tube, seems to make the bike track straighter in the rough and whoops and hold a line more precisely. Mark Lundgren, a expert level desert racer who has race KX's for years (both 250 and 500) did a large portion of the testing for me. He is probably one of the fastest guys in Utah. He was very skeptical that a bike with 500 suspension could be any different from a stock 500. At the end of the day he gave me a deposite for a kit and his brother did so the nest day. You can contact him at Dirt Works after noon or at ATK in the morning for a first hand report. The added weight of the 500 engine made the bike more stable than the 250 at speed. I think that you would be pleasantly surprised at the way the bike feels and turns. The input I've gotten so far is that it is superior to a 250 with 500 power.
Pretty harsh bike though.
Jeff is still having trouble w/suspension but Mark , I believe, has switched over to a 250shock and linkage.
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