News reagrding Land closures in Calif



5 replies to this topic
  • John_Lorenz

Posted July 09, 2002 - 07:31 AM

#1

Here is an excerpt from a email coraspondance with Bill Dart at Blue Ribbon coalition. Ya need to become a member @ http://www.sharetrails.org
******************************************

Bill

Thanks for all your help I really appreciate it. I will be joining the coalition today and encouraging others to do so themselvs.

Again thanks, this sheds light on a dark subject.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Dart [mailto:brbill_d@sharetrails.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:16 AM
To: John Lorenz
Subject: RE: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the
Ca supreme court on land closure


John

Senator Barbara Boxer has introduced a bill to designate 2.5 million acres
of Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management lands as Wilderness. This
bill is opposed by Blue Ribbon, and many other recreation, access, and
multiple use groups. Wilderness designation would close those lands to all
motorized and mechanized uses (Mtn Bikes), but would leave them open to
hiking and horseback use. ASdditionally, these lands would be off-limits to
most forest management practices, such as fuel reduction and thinning
projects to improve forest health anf reduce the risk of catastrophic
wildfire.

Fortunately, this bill has no chance of passage this year, but we still need
to generate strong oppostion to more Wilderness designations.

The Blue Ribbon Coaltion is working to promote another land management
designation called Back Country Recreation Area. We can agree that some
lands need to be protected from development or landscape altering
activities, but we know this can be done without going too far with a formal
Wilderness designation. Back Country would allow mtn bikes and trail bikes
and snowmobiles, as well as 4 wheel drive vehicles, and there would be
options for forest management other than "Let it Burn", which is about all
they can do in Wilderness areas.

You can get more information on Back Country at the Blue Ribbon web site,
www.sharetrails.org

Let me know if you still have questions

Bill Dart, Public Lands Director
Blue Ribbon Coalition
208-237-1008, ex 102
Fax 208-237-9424


-----Original Message-----
From: John Lorenz
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 9:01 PM
To: 'Bill Dart '
Subject: RE: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the
Ca supreme court on land closure


Bill
Sorry maybe I am not making it clear,

I am refering to the proposed Closure of 170+ parks that are now open to the
public, but will be designated as wilderness in California. This would
infact be any motorized, hicking, biking and horse travel as I am aware I
guess.

The rumer was this was now post poned until an economic impact study was
done on both sides.

Hope that helps

John Lorenz

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Dart
To: John Lorenz
Sent: 7/8/02 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the Ca
supreme court on land closure

John

I was referring to a settlement agreement by the National park Service
to
develop plans and regulations regarding personal water craft within
national
parks. There are actually 2 deadlines. On April 22, several parks
closed
to PWC's, pending completion of management plans for these parks. In
California, for example, Whiskeytown National Recreation Area was closed
to
PWC;s on April 22, since no management plan was in place. Similarly,
Lake
Powell is engaged in a planning process right now, but will not be able
to
complete the plan prior to September 15, the deadline for 11 national
park
units. Each individual National Park unit either has a plan in place
today,
or is in the process of completing a plan.

Since there are new technology, low emission, PWC's on the market today,
with more coming out soon, plans to eliminate PWC's have been
complicated.
If they are quiet and clean, it is harder to single them out for
restrictions.

I am still not sure if the PWC issues are what you are concerned with,
but I
don't know of any other sweeping plans to restrict/eliminate motorized
recreation in California

Have I answered your questions? If not, give me more specifics about
the
issue.

Bill Dart, Public Lands Director
Blue Ribbon Coalition
208-237-1008, ex 102
Fax 208-237-9424


--Original Message-----
From: John Lorenz Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:19 AM
To: 'Bill Dart'
Subject: RE: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the
Ca supreme court on land closure


Bill
Thanks for your reply, it was rumored that the proposed closures in
California, was postponed for a economical reports, I am not sure if it
was
what you refer to as the PWC Ban.

Can you explain the PWC plan and were it stands now?

Or do you have any information on the proposed closures as to date?

Thanks
John Lorenz

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Dart [mailto:brbill_d@sharetrails.org]
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:46 AM
To: JohnsMail
Subject: Re: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the
Ca supreme court on land closure


John

This is Bill Dart replying to your message, as Adena Cook just retired,
and
I am replacing her as the Blur Ribbon Public Lands Director.

I am not clear exactly what issue you are referring to-possibly the PWC
ban
in National Parks that has been implemented in park untis that have not
completed their management plans. I am not aware of a stay of the
proposed
closures.

Let me know if the PWC ban is your questions, or more info if it is not.

Bill Dart, Public Lands Director
BlueRibbon Coalition
Phone: 208-237-1008, ex 102
Fax: 208-237-9424

----- Original Message -----
From: "JohnsMail" To: <bradena@sharetrails.org>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:32 PM
Subject: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the Ca
supreme court on land closure


> FYI
>
> Can you collaborate a roomer that the California or US supreme court
has
> stayed in favor of the not closure until further Specific impact req.
are
> meet?
>
> It is rumored that the Ca, and or US supreme court over turned or
stayed
the
> petition for Calf land closers.
>
> Can this be accredited
>
> John Lorenz

  • BFLee

Posted July 09, 2002 - 07:54 AM

#2

I just joined BRC after reading this. It's only $20. How many of you out there have spent more on bike graphics than your right to ride, hmmmmmmmm???

GO DO IT!!!

http://www.sharetrails.org

  • John_Lorenz

Posted July 09, 2002 - 08:16 AM

#3

Could not have said it better, 20 bucks is a small price to pay for protecting you riding rights.

You ask yourself what can I do?
This is it

for thse of you who ride the dunes in SoCal
here is a guy who is trying to keep the dunes open.
http://www.americans...ssociation.org/

Just another point, I read alot of flak sometimes in the threads here All forums. That people get upset when they hear of closures, sound chk, and other things that simply go against our sport. Its not just California thi shappens.

The best thing to do is to fight back by joining a group local or national that will voice your opinion. The NRA did not become as big with out its members......

[ July 09, 2002: Message edited by: E.G.O.**** ]

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  • Shawn_Mc

Posted July 09, 2002 - 09:19 PM

#4

Done. I sent them an extra 25 bucks too. Start steppin it up out there. The damn Nazi party is having its will with you.

  • RR@ARS

Posted July 09, 2002 - 11:12 AM

#5

Done. Plus an extra $25 contribution.

Come on guys, It's not that much......

There's power in numbers!

  • oldasdirt

Posted July 09, 2002 - 11:39 AM

#6

recon that forest service guy can do like they do in Colorado and burn it down themselves.oldasdirt
:) :D :D
I to have recently joined BRC.

[ July 10, 2002: Message edited by: oldasdirt ]





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