When does Yamaha Officially Release '05 Specifications


14 replies to this topic
  • Jeepentj

Posted June 03, 2004 - 06:32 AM

#1

I remember last year they had it posted on their website letting everybody know when the specifications for next year's bikes would become public but I don't see it there yet. Anybody have any ideas?

  • Satch0922

Posted June 03, 2004 - 06:38 AM

#2

The dealers find out this month then the info should be coming out in the US. Some of it has already been posted on Yamaha's site in France.

  • aremean_troy

Posted June 03, 2004 - 11:13 AM

#3

yups... you are right...

it was on www.yamaha-motor.fr for a while
but I think yamaha removed it already

http://www2.yamaha-m...?id_article=537

  • ovrrdrive

Posted June 03, 2004 - 03:26 PM

#4

yups... you are right...

it was on www.yamaha-motor.fr for a while
but I think yamaha removed it already

http://www2.yamaha-m...?id_article=537



Yep.

[3/06/2004] Suite à la demande de YAMAHA Motor Corp, toutes les photos ont été dépubliées du site.


Rough translation, "Under demands from Yamaha Motor Corp, the photos have been unpublished from the site."

Always a day late and a dollar short. :thumbsup:

  • SCOTTYZF426FLA

Posted June 03, 2004 - 04:37 PM

#5

I can't wait till they are out. I tried to get an 04 for about 2 weeks and me deal could not get one. Yamaha had a $400 rebate on it. Now they want like $5900 for one. I am going to hold out for the 05's and spend $300 extra. :thumbsup:

  • yzf400man

Posted June 03, 2004 - 06:15 PM

#6

i got my new mxa in the mail to day. had pics and stuff of the 05 yzf....... too bad it was the 250. but it still had some cool new stuff like renthal bars and new swingarm and new forks. but they said that they would get more in a month or so. i just thaught id throw that out!

  • Flattracker60

Posted June 04, 2004 - 02:38 AM

#7

Scott,I don't know were you live, but a dealer by me has a couple he'd sell for $5200! I think if you look, there are plenty of YZ450's out there.

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  • Ga426owner

Posted June 04, 2004 - 02:48 AM

#8

I can't wait till they are out. I tried to get an 04 for about 2 weeks and me deal could not get one. Yamaha had a $400 rebate on it. Now they want like $5900 for one. I am going to hold out for the 05's and spend $300 extra. :thumbsup:


That is way too high! We are seeing them selling for 4900-5300 in Alabama, TN & parts of Ga. Stay away from big City dealers like Atlanta......they want top $. :awww:

  • Jeepentj

Posted June 04, 2004 - 04:08 AM

#9

Thanks for the information. I've heard time and time again that the '05 YZ450 is going to be a 5-speed, which is the information I'm really after. Has anybody else heard this? If it really is a 5-speed, I think I'm switching back.

  • Henrik

Posted June 04, 2004 - 05:12 AM

#10

Well, I can't wait to try out a 2-trac... Just for kicks though... Strange animal that 2-trac thingy...

  • squad56

Posted June 04, 2004 - 12:09 PM

#11

someone find out if they will have a 5 speed. because i might have to go and get an 05. nah i really wont but it sure would be nice to have a 5th gear

  • MN_Kevin

Posted June 04, 2004 - 01:34 PM

#12

Honda Announces Revised CRF250R and CRF450R for '05
By Alex Edge



2005 Honda CRF450R
Honda has released pictures and specs for the 2005 CRF four-stroke MX bikes, revealing the updates made to the bikes for the new model year.

The biggest news is the CRF450R's all new, 4th-gen aluminum frame, similar to the 4th-gen design first seen on the CRF250R when it was released last year. Both bikes also receive a series of minor changes, most designed to shave weight (the CRF250R loses 2 pounds, while the 450 drops 3.5).

The CRF250R also receives some significant engine modifications aimed at increasing low-end power.

Here is the official Honda info regarding the 2005 CRF450R:

Torrance, Calif. 06/01/2004 -- Honda's race-proven superstar, the CRF450R enters 2005 with a wealth of refinements and a lighter weight that make this big four-stroke the overwhelming class favorite.

Features & Benefits

New for 2005

• New fourth-generation twin-spar aluminum frame. Forged aluminum steering head and tapered downtube section are designed to optimize frame rigidity. In addition, tall swingarm pivot plates and thin frame spars create a narrow overall frame cross-section for superb rider comfort and maneuverability.
• Semi-double-cradle frame design features a single, large-diameter tapered downtube. Two rugged box-section rails attach to the base of the downtube and support the engine. A forged aluminum steering head provides a compact and extremely durable mount for the frame spars and engine downtube.
• New swingarm features a dual-axis, double-taper design with a large cast aluminum cross-member that is lighter weight and stronger.
• New shift drum, shift forks and shift fork shafts for more precise shifting.
• New front and rear suspension valving for improved bump absorption.
• New front axle placement for improved fork action and turning.
• New Pro-Link® ratio combined with 5.5 kg rear shock spring for more compliant suspension action.
• New exhaust pipe heat shield made from titanium for weight savings.
• New airbox and intake tube for more direct airflow and increased power.
• New side number plate with built-in airbox vents for improved air flow.
• New aluminum clutch cable bracket for lighter weight.
• New rear hub is stronger and lighter.
• New one-piece seat bolt for easier maintenance.
• New lighter rear brake pedal.
• New rear brake pad insulators for consistent braking action.
• New narrower radiators for improved rider ergonomics while maintaining cooling capacity.
• New radiator hose routing for lighter weight and improved cooling.
• Overall weight reduced by 3.5 pounds.

Engine/Drivetrain

• Powerful engine churns out 55 bhp at 9000 rpm and 36.9 lb./ft. of torque at 6500 rpm. Power is produced across a wide rpm-band for easy-to-control operation.
• Auto decompression and hot restart system make starting easy in all conditions.
• Liquid-cooled four-valve Unicam™ 449cc engine produces more than 120 hp per liter while maintaining Honda's legendary dependability and simplicity.
• Compact, lightweight engine assembly weighs only 63.8 pounds.
• ACG cover made from magnesium for reduced heat build-up and lighter weight.
• Unicam valve train provides the light weight of a compact single-cam drive and the optimum combustion chamber shape for maximum power at all engine rpm.
• Unicam valve train features a carburized single camshaft that directly actuates two 36mm titanium intake valves. The camshaft exhaust lobe actuates two 31mm steel exhaust valves via a forked, low-friction roller rocker-arm. A separate cam holder contributes to the compact design, which allows a remarkable 21.5° included valve angle and saves 13.3 ounces over a comparable DOHC system.
• Lightweight titanium intake valves permit use of smaller valve springs, reducing overall engine height and saving 15.2 grams per valve compared to a steel valve design.
• Unique, internal pin-rotation-type auto decompressor produces a lightweight, compact system that provides superb cold-starting and hot-restarting operation.
• Crankshaft is made of high-strength, low-carbon steel with carburized main journals for maximum durability at sustained high-rpm operation.
• Forged 12.0:1 compression slipper piston is more than 4.5 ounces lighter than a conventional design, revving quickly while maintaining excellent cylinder sealing and high-rpm power.
• Double-carburized connecting rod utilizes a big-end needle bearing for maximum high-rpm performance and durability.
• Nikasil® cylinder lining is lightweight and provides cooler and quieter operation for extended engine life.
• Press-fitted aluminum spark plug pipe fits between forked exhaust rocker arms, further contributing to compact cylinder head design.
• 40mm FCR-type carburetor features four rollers on the flat slide, resulting in very light throttle effort, smooth operation, crisp throttle response and excellent ride-ability. Bottom of float chamber is designed to allow more fuel to pass to the main jet.
• An 8-bit digital CPU incorporates the capacitive discharge ignition (CDI), producing immediate data calculation and extremely accurate ignition for maximum performance.
• Twin-sump lubrication system separates the oil supply for the crankshaft, piston and valve train from the clutch and transmission. This ensures a cool supply of oil to the clutch, eliminates clutch and transmission material contamination to the engine oil, and reduces the amount of circulating oil and the required size of the oil pump.
• Vertically split crankcases feature a built-in oil pump, reducing weight 5.1 ounces compared to a conventional design.
• Exhaust system uses a lightweight titanium exhaust header, stainless steel pipe and re-packable aluminum silencer with aluminum end cap.
• Long-lasting silencer packing.
• Dual radiators provide significantly more surface area and more effective heat dissipation compared to a single-radiator design.
• Gear-driven balancer reduces vibration and drives the water pump. Eight clutch plates provide the surface area necessary to handle the engine's massive torque, while carefully matched clutch springs provide a light feel at the lever.

Chassis/Suspension

• The aluminum frame design is matched to rider ergonomics to maximize handling and control operation.
• Front and rear wheels feature HRC® works-type lightweight aluminum spoke nipples.
• Front wheel features large-diameter front axle and wide wheel-bearing span for excellent rigidity.
• Rear axle diameter of 25mm and large-diameter bearings provide significant rigidity to withstand torturous track conditions.
• Lightweight, 47mm inverted Showa® twin-chamber cartridge fork with aluminum dampers feature settings unique to the CRF™. The fork offers 12.4 inches of travel, 16-position rebound and 16-position compression damping adjustability. Front fork stanchions' inner surfaces use same honing process as on works bikes for reduced friction.
• Pro-Link single-shock rear suspension system features a fully adjustable Showa rear damper and 12.5 inches of wheel travel, separate low-speed (13 positions) and high-speed (3.5 turns) compression damping adjusters and 17-position rebound damping adjustability.
• Rear shock's damper piston diameter is 50mm for consistent performance under demanding riding conditions.
• Compact dual-piston front brake caliper has been designed for a weight savings of more than 1 ounce. Anodized aluminum brake pistons and lightweight front brake disc minimize unsprung weight for improved turning and handling.
• HRC works-type rear brake system integrates the rear master cylinder and fluid reservoir, eliminating the rear master cylinder reservoir and hose.
• Large, 240mm front and rear brake discs.


Additional Features

• Frame design allows sidecovers to have larger air-intake ducts, contributing to significant airflow increase in the mid- and upper-rpm ranges.
• Rider ergonomics are optimized by adapting the handlebar, seat and footpeg height to place the rider's legs at the narrowest cross-section of the frame, for improved comfort and handling feel.
• Seat cushion follows the shape of the fuel tank, providing a smooth transition to increase rider mobility and comfort.
• Non-slip seat cover for increased rider-control.
• Brake pedal and shift lever are designed to complement the riding position.
• Brake pedal features optimized ratio to match integrated rear-brake master cylinder design.
• Wide, cleated stainless steel footpegs are self-cleaning, corrosion resistance, provide excellent grip and fold for extra ground clearance.
• Rear brake pedal and shift lever are made of lightweight aluminum.
• Adjustable front brake lever for maximum control.
• Quick-adjust clutch perch for easy cable adjustment.
• Aluminum 971 bend Renthal handlebars as standard equipment is rubber-mounted to reduce rider fatigue and improve comfort.
• CR handlebar holders provide three different mounting positions: standard CRF450R holder provides +/- 3mm fore or aft position to match rider preference, and optional holder (CR®250R-type) provides neutral position.
• Works-type handlebar grips add to rider comfort.
Dunlop 742 front and 756 rear tires for improved traction and cornering.
• Front disc brake cover helps protect rotor and caliper from damage.
• Removable rear subframe allows easy maintenance.
• Washable, two-stage foam air filter for optimal engine protection and easy maintenance.
• Repackable silencer for maximum performance and minimal noise.
• Comfortable, durable controls and high-quality fasteners.
• Stainless steel clutch cable for long life.
• Honda Racing-inspired colors and graphics.
• Ownership includes one-year complimentary membership in the Honda Rider's Club of America™ (HRCA®). Benefits include: discounts, travel benefits, roadside assistance for off-road bike transport vehicle while motorcycle is being transported, one year complimentary subscription to Honda Red Rider™ magazine, access to HRCA Clubhouse Web site (www.hrca.honda.com), access online to Honda Common Service Manual. For HRCA details, call 1-800-847-HRCA.



And now, Honda's press release on the CRF250R:


Torrance, Calif. 06/01/2004 -- Racing improves the breed, which means this class-leading front runner enters 2005 with a host of new features plus a lighter weight.

Features & Benefits

New for 2005

• New cylinder head porting for increased power at lower rpm.
• New camshaft profile increases low-rpm torque while maintaining maximum horsepower.
• New ignition map works in conjunction with new cylinder head and camshaft for improved power at virtually all engine speeds.
• New spark plug with side electrode for improved spark and complete combustion.
• New aluminum spark plug tube for lighter weight.
• New lightweight right engine cover for improved transmission and clutch lubrication.
• New stiffer clutch springs for improved feel and increased durability.
• New shift drum, shift forks and shift fork shafts for more precise shifting.
• New rear hub is lighter and stronger.
• New swingarm construction for lighter weight.
• New exhaust pipe for lighter weight and mass centralization.
• New muffler design for lighter weight and mass centralization.
• New rear brake pad insulators for consistent braking action.
• New fork and rear suspension valving for improved bump absorption.
• New front axle placement for improved fork action and turning.
• New improved Pro-Link® ratio.
• Overall bike lighter by 2.0 pounds.

Engine/Drivetrain

• Powerful four-stroke 249cc liquid-cooled four-valve Unicam™ engine is designed to produce power across a wide rpm range for easy-to-control operation.
• Lightweight, compact, internal auto decompression and handlebar-mounted hot-start system provide superb operation, hot or cold.
• Compact, lightweight engine assembly weighs only 52.7 pounds.
• Unicam valve train provides the light weight of a compact single-cam drive and the optimum combustion chamber shape for maximum power at all engine rpm.
• Unicam valve train features a carburized single camshaft that directly actuates two 31mm titanium intake valves. The camshaft exhaust lobe actuates two 26mm steel exhaust valves via a forked, low-friction roller rocker-arm.
• Lightweight titanium intake valves permit use of smaller valve springs, reducing overall engine height.
• Crankshaft is made of high-strength, low-carbon steel with carburized main journals for maximum durability at sustained high-rpm operation.
• ACG cover, clutch cover and cylinder head cover are made of magnesium to reduce engine weight.
• Forged 12.9:1 compression slipper piston and rings are lighter than a conventional design, revving quickly while maintaining excellent cylinder sealing and high-rpm power.
• Double-carburized connecting rod utilizes a big-end needle bearing for maximum high-rpm performance and durability.
• Nikasil® cylinder lining is lightweight and provides cooler operation for extended engine life.
• Press-fitted aluminum spark plug pipe fits between forked exhaust rocker arms, further contributing to compact cylinder head design.
• 37mm Keihin FCR carburetor features four rollers on the flat slide, resulting in very light throttle effort, smooth operation, crisp throttle response and excellent rideability.
• Carburetor features a throttle position sensor (TPS) that helps maintain a linear throttle response throughout the range.
• Twin-sump lubrication system separates the oil supply for the crankshaft, piston and valve train from the clutch and transmission. This ensures a cool supply of oil to the clutch, eliminates clutch and transmission material contamination to the engine oil, reduces the amount of circulating oil, and permits the use of a smaller oil pump.
• Vertically split crankcases feature a built-in oil pump, reducing weight compared to a conventional design.
• Exhaust system uses a lightweight stainless exhaust header and repackable aluminum muffler.
• Dual radiators feature a refined core area for improved heat dissipation compared to conventional dual-radiator design.
• Gear-driven balancer reduces vibration and drives the water pump. Eight clutch disks provide the surface area necessary to handle the engine's impressive torque, while carefully matched clutch springs provide a light feel at the lever.
• Durable five-speed close-ratio transmission.

Chassis/Suspension

• Fourth-generation twin-spar aluminum frame is derived from Honda's CR® series. Forged aluminum steering head and tapered downtube section are designed to optimize frame rigidity. In addition, tall swingarm pivot plates and thin frame spars create a narrow overall frame cross-section for superb rider comfort and maneuverability.
• Frame design features a single, large-diameter tapered downtube. Two rugged box-section rails attach to the base of the downtube and support the engine. A forged aluminum steering head provides a compact and extremely durable mount for the frame spars and engine downtube.
• The aluminum frame design is matched to rider ergonomics to maximize handling and control operation.
• Swingarm features a dual-axis, double-taper design with a large cast aluminum cross-member.
• Front and rear wheels feature HRC® works-type lightweight aluminum spoke nipples.
• Front wheel features large-diameter front axle and wide wheel-bearing span for excellent rigidity.
• Rear axle diameter of 25mm and large-diameter bearings provide significant rigidity to withstand torturous track conditions.
• Lightweight, 47mm inverted Showa® twin-chamber cartridge fork with aluminum dampers. The fork offers 12.4 inches of travel, 16-position rebound and 16-position compression damping adjustability. The inner surface of the front fork outer-tubes receives same honing treatment as works bikes for low-friction operation.
• Pro-Link single-shock rear suspension system features a fully adjustable Showa rear damper and 12.4 inches of wheel travel, separate low-speed (13 positions) and high-speed (3.5 turns) compression damping adjusters and 17-position rebound damping.
• Rear shock damper piston diameter is 50mm for consistent performance under demanding riding conditions.
• Compact twin-piston front brake caliper, anodized aluminum brake pistons and lightweight front brake disc minimize unsprung weight for improved turning and handling.
• HRC works-type rear brake system integrates the rear master cylinder and fluid reservoir, eliminating the rear master cylinder reservoir and hose.
• Large, 240mm front and rear brake discs.

Additional Features

• All plastic body components (radiator shroud, sidecovers, rear fender, seat base, fuel tank, front fender and front number plate), offer a slim, aggressive style and light weight.
• Frame design allows airbox sidecovers to have larger intake ducts, contributing to significant airflow in the mid- and upper-rpm ranges.
• Rider ergonomics are optimized by adapting the handlebar, seat and footpeg height to place the rider's legs at the narrowest cross-section of the frame for improved comfort and handling feel.
• Seat cushion uses foam construction that follows the shape of the fuel tank, providing a smooth transition to increase rider mobility and comfort.
• "Non-slip" seat cover for increased rider control.
• Cleated rear brake pedal and folding shift lever are made of lightweight aluminum and are designed to complement the riding position. Brake pedal features optimized ratio to match integrated rear-brake master cylinder design.
• Wide, cleated stainless steel footpegs are self-cleaning, resist corrosion, provide excellent grip and fold for extra ground clearance.
• Aluminum Renthal handlebar (971 bend) is rubber-mounted to reduce rider fatigue and improve comfort.
• CR handlebar holders provide three different mounting positions: standard CRF250R holder (CRF450/CR125R-type) provides +/- 3mm fore or aft position to match rider preference, and optional holder (CR250R-type) provides neutral position.
• Works-type handlebar grips add to rider comfort.
• Adjustable front brake lever.
• Quick-adjust clutch perch for easy cable adjustment.
Clutch lever designed to improve feel and action.
• Dunlop D742 front and D756 rear tires are fitted for maximum traction and cornering performance.
• Chain guide material offers improved wear resistance, with a service life five times greater than conventional materials.
• Front disc brake cover helps protect rotor and caliper from damage.
• Removable rear subframe allows easy maintenance.
• Washable, two-stage foam air filter for optimal engine protection and easy maintenance.
• Repackable silencer for maximum performance and minimal noise.
• Comfortable, durable controls and high-quality fasteners.
• Stainless steel clutch cable for long life.
• Honda Racing-inspired colors and graphics.
• Ownership includes one-year complimentary membership in the Honda Rider's Club of America™ (HRCA®). Benefits include: discounts, travel benefits, roadside assistance for off-road bike transport vehicle while motorcycle is being transported, one year complimentary subscription to Honda Red Rider™ magazine, access to HRCA Clubhouse Web site (www.hrca.honda.com), access online to Honda Common Service Manual. For HRCA details, call 1-800-847-HRCA.

as seen @ www.motorcycledaily.com

  • Rider_727

Posted June 06, 2004 - 04:12 PM

#13

What could you need a 5th gear for unless you use it for ofroad also. Even bone stock I have had my 03 yz 450f clocked at 84 MPH !!BONE STOCK!! I really haven't even used it since break in. There is no need for it on a motocross track. Nor 1st. 2nd and 3rd is all you need. There could sell me a two speed tranny and I would be perfectly happy. :thumbsup:

  • DPW

Posted June 06, 2004 - 04:25 PM

#14

Yeah I agree keep it a 4 speed!

  • gonzo

Posted June 07, 2004 - 01:19 AM

#15

I dont think they are looking at a 5th gear to go faster just for more variety but even still when I ride the woods(which so far has been 3 times) I never needed 1st or 4th and I smoked everyone back there so I dont understand the complaint.





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