4 speed 450



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  • MojaveMutt

Posted June 11, 2002 - 03:36 AM

#1

A friend of mine with industry connections says the new 450 might very well have a 4 speed trans.

Glenn

  • Hick

Posted June 11, 2002 - 04:43 AM

#2

That would be a big mistake. I'll have to split the cases and put the WR tranny in then...

  • sirthumpalot

Posted June 11, 2002 - 04:48 AM

#3

For MX I could see that (I never use 1st on the track as it is) but for offroad it would be a very bad move. For the second reason I'll put $1 that they leave it a 5 speed.

  • Shawn_Mc

Posted June 11, 2002 - 06:51 AM

#4

A four speed trans wouldnt surprize me a bit. If you want the 5 speed, buy the WR. Thats why they build it that way.

Honestly, the YZF is a motocross RACING machine. Not a trail bike. Unless your Bob Hannah or something. I read this in a mag: "Lets go climb that hill" What hill? That hill! Thats not a hill, its a cliff! Oh shut up and follow me, if we hit it in fourth we should clear the top! Ya right, I'll watch. HOLY SH!T! howd he do that?

  • sirthumpalot

Posted June 11, 2002 - 07:04 AM

#5

Technically you're correct, but from a marketing point of view I'd be curious to see how many of the YZFs go offroad. It may be enough to be significant.

  • Jason_in_KC

Posted June 11, 2002 - 07:11 AM

#6

In the Missouri harescrambles and another local series I compete in, if you see a Yammy 4stroke it is high percentage shot that its a YZ, seems around here more of the recreational riders have the WR's. This is just an observation though. I know if there were more WR's..especially the 250f version, I would be over trying to get a test ride..4gears or 5 though, either way it will still serve many purposes..looking forward to later this week so we can all quit guessing...Jason

  • Hick

Posted June 11, 2002 - 08:04 AM

#7

I've NEVER seen a WR line up at the start of an off-road event around here, unless it was disguised as a YZ.

People have always raced MX bikes due to the sand liking a taller initial gear, fairly tight courses (about 30 mph avg., so no 100 mph "bomb run"), and sand whoops liking stiff suspension.

And of course you see a lot of EXC and MXCs, 250 and up...

But probably 90% of the bikes at any given race are all YZ, CR, KX and RMs (in that order).

I did see an RMX 250 once, in the C class, ridden by a guy who just moved out here from MO...

IMO removing a gear to save 8 ounces and four bucks is a bonehead move, and I in fact will add my dollar to the pot started by Sirthumpalot. I would also like to make a side bet that the '03 KTM SX 520 will be a five or six speed.

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  • MojaveMutt

Posted June 11, 2002 - 08:06 AM

#8

Yamaha has no interest in off-road racing. Maybe they figure the 4 speed won't hurt since their target market for the yz line is mx focused. I believe that 3 & 4 speed trannies are run at the factory level in Europe and U.S. respectively.


Glenn

  • holeshot

Posted June 11, 2002 - 09:20 PM

#9

My 426 is sometimes an MX bike, at other times an Enduro/trail machine or a playbike on a dry lakebed and, on a few occasions, has been tapped out in fifth gear on the dragstrip at Carlsbad (GP race).

If they went to 4 speeds, at lot of people would be seeing red. :)

  • farmboy520

Posted June 11, 2002 - 09:51 PM

#10

My bike is a four speed and I race MX -- and it NEEDS more gears! On most local MX tracks I am ok but on one in particular I am reaching for fifth.

Someone who is supposedly knowledgeable told me that Tim Ferry only runs three gears in his factory 426 for supercross - anyone else heard this?

  • DerwoodYZ

Posted June 11, 2002 - 10:10 AM

#11

As I heard the YZ will be a 4spd and the WR will get 5 spd's and a electric start! I might be going WR next time.

  • Stumpy

Posted June 11, 2002 - 10:23 AM

#12

Originally posted by farmboy520:
Someone who is supposedly knowledgeable told me that Tim Ferry only runs three gears in his factory 426 for supercross - anyone else heard this?


Ferry's bike does indeed have only three gears. The other two are blocked off with plastic gears and a special shift drum that will not actuate them.

Originally posted by G. LYLES:
Yamaha has no interest in off-road racing.



Yamaha has a pretty good off-road contingency program to support the use of WRs and YZs in events other than MX.

  • Hick

Posted June 11, 2002 - 11:17 AM

#13

Originally posted by G. LYLES:
Maybe they figure the 4 speed won't hurt since their target market for the yz line is mx focused.
Glenn


They would be wrong.

  • yznvegas

Posted June 11, 2002 - 11:38 AM

#14

I was riding my yz at a dry lake bed on saturday and wished there was a 6th gear. I was rapped out in 5th and the bike was done. Granted, I don't normally ride like that but it would have been nice to be able to grab another gear.

All I have to say is if the 03' has a 4-speed than I will keep my 02' for a long long time.

  • MANIAC998

Posted June 11, 2002 - 03:57 PM

#15

YZNVEGAS. I put 5th gear from the WR in my YZ. I never used 5th on a MX track anyhow. But I wanted some quazar top speed for those fire trails. This way, I can still use the first four for MX, and now 5th is seriously fast on those open stretches!!! Maniac :)





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