Which Off-Roader To Go With
Posted April 19, 2004 - 04:05 PM
I currently ride an '02 CRF-450, and absolutely love the beast, especially on MX tracks where it's right at home. However, I've raced it a couple of times in Hare Scrambles and have decided it time to get a dedicated off-road bike for my trail riding...especially since I'm moving to Colorado in 2 months and will be doing LOTS of trail riding there.
So my question is which off-roader to go with: the WR-450f, the KTM 400/450 EXC, or the CRF-250x. Being used to the power of my 450, I simply can't imagine down-sizing to a 250, but I want to make sure in the same sense that the WR-450 is geared towards trail riding, and is not going to hit/stall like my CRF can at the most unopportune moment...believe me, I love the 2-stroke style hit of my CRF, but not while trying to finesse my way up a steep slippery hill.
Anyway, my instincts say the WR-450 is the way to go for pure trail/off-road riding, but I'd like to hear your inputs as well.
I'm not getting rid of my CRF, just looking for an awesome dedicated trail bike to supplement my garage space
Posted April 19, 2004 - 05:17 PM
Posted April 19, 2004 - 05:30 PM
Posted April 19, 2004 - 06:41 PM
Posted April 19, 2004 - 07:17 PM
Now if your not real aggressive the WR is a good choice. The WR has a more MX style feel than the KTM's and you sound like you like that. Then they have the Estart, headlight, and kickstand to boot. The WR climbs like a Mtn goat too. But the KTM's all climb well too. Several guys that I have rode with from Texas has said the 525's are to much down there but just right up here.
Posted April 20, 2004 - 03:43 AM
I go riding in places that will blow your mind, not to mention that the guys will have the same effect on your mind.
Let me know.
Posted April 20, 2004 - 08:31 AM
Posted April 20, 2004 - 01:43 PM
Posted April 21, 2004 - 08:59 AM
Once you get the jetting straight on the WR's, altitude isn't an issue. I ride from 5,280 all the way up to 13,000+ feet and the only change I make is the main.
My buddies have KTM 450's and 525's and I'd stick with the 450 if you go that route. The 525's seem to overheat easily here on tight trails without an additional electric fan. The boiling point is lower and there is less airflow.
As Indy said, you are down about 20% on power around Denver, it only gets worse as you go up so the 250F's can seem a little sluggish.
Posted April 21, 2004 - 03:03 PM
Posted April 22, 2004 - 01:08 AM
He rides it hard (mostly on the street as supermoto) but he needs to add oil after every ride. When he received it there was some ridiculiously low milage recommendation of when to change. He has not that many miles on it
I opened up the top end of my WR400 (1998) for the first time in 3 years and the specs were like it was new. I have not measured piston diameter but ring gaps were were still within new spec. Now I dont ride every weekend but I ride it pretty hard when I do.....
I would steer clear of Hondas CRF450's based on what i have heard about the high maintenance. Also CRF450's have some major shortcomings as enduro machines, except maybe 90% WOT high speed applications. No question on the MX track but inappropriate for woods and technical.
Posted April 22, 2004 - 03:25 AM