Originally posted by armourbl:
Quads belong on quad trails and at the dunes.
Ben, I have followed enough of your postings to know that you are a decent guy and I do agree with your sentiments. There are way to many idiots that don't know what they should be doing or where they should be doing it. And something should be done about it. I've never ridden MX and only have observed as a spectator or on the track as a flagger. The idea of quads and bikes on the track at the same time bothers me, but then so does the idea of adult riders and kids riding at the same time. Really, this is probably more of an economic consideration then anything else. I'm sure quaders would love to have their own exclusive tracks, but track owners have to maximize the return on their investment. As quad MXing gains more participation (and it will), this may tend to resolve itself. Likewise with OHV. Hopefully, with enough funding and support OHV management can start to provide for better isolation of the different machines (i.e., designated single track only, quad only, jeep only, etc.) Right now, "multi-use" is the prevalent theme. As far as idiots go, I don't like sharing any kind of trail with them no matter what they ride or drive.
Having said that, I do feel strongly that we need to continue to break down the "stereo type" considerations and foster more of a cooperative climate. That cleanup you mentioned that was held a couple weeks ago was actually a cooperative effort by Arizona ATV Riders (quad club), RidingArizona.com (a bike and quad forum), Arizona Trail Riders (enduro/singletrack club) and several local jeep clubs. We had a pretty good turnout and the support from each of the clubs was fantastic. We could have done better though considering how many people ride out there (Bartlett/Camp Creek).
We all have sort of a natural tendency to feel like the other guy should be somewhere else. But, we are all in the same boat and need to help each other have places to ride and educate our respective "idiots".