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Was in a contested area last Sunday and even though there were only 10-20 riders (max) down there the trail looked terrible. Multiple places where dirt bikes had cut switchbacks, gone around down timber etc. If the trail is too hard for you, don't ride there. Carry a saw and do your part (can simply be a manual chain saw). Don't be a &%$#@!ing GOON. 

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Couldn't agree more. A couple weeks ago there was a large tree laying across a trail at rampart and we had a large enough group to attempt lifting it out of the way. As we made a plan, another group of three riders sat there and watched us. Only after making a snarky comment in their direction and lifting said tree to start moving it did one of them come help us. We as a group were not impressed with them.

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Couldn't agree more. A couple weeks ago there was a large tree laying across a trail at rampart and we had a large enough group to attempt lifting it out of the way. As we made a plan, another group of three riders sat there and watched us. Only after making a snarky comment in their direction and lifting said tree to start moving it did one of them come help us. We as a group were not impressed with them.

Spring of '15 was at Rampart with a group of 5 riders and cleared 6 trees that day. I think we spent more time clearin than ridin.

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Yep.  A couple weeks ago we were on a trail near Dolores that hasn't been worked on in awhile, there were alternate routes cut around places that had deadfall or the trail was real torn up.  We stuck to the trail (and ended up exhausted), we didn't take the alternate routes.  I'm bringing a saw next time.

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Yep.  A couple weeks ago we were on a trail near Dolores that hasn't been worked on in awhile, there were alternate routes cut around places that had deadfall or the trail was real torn up.  We stuck to the trail (and ended up exhausted), we didn't take the alternate routes.  I'm bringing a saw next time.

I ride with a Silky Big Boy hand saw and it has saved me many times during the summer. I generally ride with a chainsaw very early in the season almost as a matter of course but I stop riding with with by about July and just rely on my hand saw for the occasional tree you come across later in the summer.

 

You will be amazed at how good these high end hand saws work.

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Agreed. the corona was cheap, and I had low expectations of its performance. KILLER hand saw. 

 

I have to find a rack and mount for a chain saw. Last June in the high country it would have been very convenient versus a hand saw. 

I have the trail tech chain saw mount (http://www.trailtech.net/hard-parts/chainsaw-mount/csm1a) but I got it and the chainsaw (Stihl 192) at the same time to make sure they would work together.

 

We tested my mount with a buddies Stihl 250 and it didn't work unmodified. (we didn't modify it as we were just testing out of interest).

 

I know that Northern colorado trail riders have some good  chain saw carriers that they use on work days that handle a wide variety of models.

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When you google "cheap bastard" my picture comes up. with 5 motorcycles, 9 cars, and a toy hauler I spend a lot on tires, oil, etc. So the rack options for me at $180+ don't pique my interest. Bought a Nomadic rack for $85 bucks, and will make my own adapter for whatever chainsaw I end up buying. rear mount was my only option, didn't want to lose the headlight mounting to the front. Piece of oak bolted to the rack, and eyelets for a ratcheting tie down to keep the saw in place. that way I can mount whatever saw I want, just needs to have the bar hole cut for it. 

 

Pro Moto Billet would have been $240+, and the trail tech front mount $200 or so. Even the Midwest Mountain Engineering front mount was $175 before shipping. 

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I too have a handsaw...and have volunteered to do trailwork...but back to the original content...

I tend to agree. Some of us do alot....many do some...and some make it hard for the rest of us.

Unfortunately, I dont see things changing for the better as population increases. But I reserve the right to call out other groups whose members are irresponsible and/or dangerous like the Razr riders we encountered this summer. My thread is on adv. Even Rzr owners were upset with the behavior of some of their own.

Sound familiar?

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If I lived in an area where trails were readily available, I would be more than enthusiastic about keeping and making trails fun to ride. Anybody out there ever take the time to make a jump out of a downed tree? Take some of the other trees already down and stack next to the tree in the trail. Throw some dirt on it. Might save a back not having to cut bigger trees

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Was in a contested area last Sunday and even though there were only 10-20 riders (max) down there the trail looked terrible. Multiple places where dirt bikes had cut switchbacks, gone around down timber etc. If the trail is too hard for you, don't ride there. Carry a saw and do your part (can simply be a manual chain saw). Don't be a &%$#@!ing GOON.

Where? St. Charles? I know that's prolly what your talking about. Why does it make you mad when you see new lines burned in? Doesn't bother me at all.

I'm a dirt bike rider not a logger. No way I'm going to risk my ass cutting timber, sorry. It's a hazard just sitting in the same spot where trees have been falling. Rather not wait for another one to blow over on me. If you can't make it over some deadfall, too bad. Less goons... Scrub filter... The more deadfall the better IMO, I think it makes the trail better... I hate it when someone cuts one of my good logs.

I did build a rock jump over some deadfall going up snowslide so my part is done there... I think it's the forest services job to use my money to maintain trails. Just saying...

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Where? St. Charles? I know that's prolly what your talking about. Why does it make you mad when you see new lines burned in? Doesn't bother me at all.

I'm a dirt bike rider not a logger. No way I'm going to risk my ass cutting timber, sorry. It's a hazard just sitting in the same spot where trees have been falling. Rather not wait for another one to blow over on me. If you can't make it over some deadfall, too bad. Less goons... Scrub filter... The more deadfall the better IMO, I think it makes the trail better... I hate it when someone cuts one of my good logs.

I did build a rock jump over some deadfall going up snowslide so my part is done there... I think it's the forest services job to use my money to maintain trails. Just saying...

 

So, so sorry to hear this. It's self entitled, irresponsible people (read douchebags) like you who give our sport a bad name. I can only hope that one of two things happens- 1) you grow up and get a little smarter as you get older or 2) the trails you love so much get shut down because of your action/inaction long before you are ready to give up riding. BTW- was that you I saw pushing your bike up towards the top?????

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