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Yamaha YZ450FX (2016)


Owner: DirtbikemikeNV
Added on November 14, 2016


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Yamaha YZ450FX 2016


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  • Krannie McKranface
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Location: California
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Posted July 23, 2016 - 06:24 PM


Bob Hurricane Hanna lightning bolt?

 

Jes mang



  • Krannie McKranface
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Posted July 24, 2016 - 10:52 AM


FIRST REAL RIDE:

 

Particulars

 

Stock FX map

Enzo respring and revalve .54/6.6

Lowered pegs (stock pegs) 20mm down 3 mm forward

No kickstand due to peg lowering - have a fix for this

Stock AT81 tires (12 psi front, 10 back)

Stock tubes

Stock bars

BRP submount with Scotts damper, bars in forward position

Extra tall seat 

105/25 sag

Forks in stock (2mm up) position

TMD skid plate

 

Power

 

Excellent

Lower mid to mid oriented

Very flat curve

Torque is lacking immediately off idle (stalled it several times)

   - requires constant clutch modulation on steep technical climbs or it can stall easily

Easy to lift front end on command

Noisy intake!

 

Handling

 

Excellent

Feels short and with a very light front end (too light for steep climbs ?)

Seated sweet spot is pretty far forward, pretty much like all the 'new gen' bikes

Standing is fine

Understeer/oversteer is pretty neutral, but it is not a wide 'sweet spot' so you have to have a lot of pressure on the pegs

The Enzo suspension is very good. Firm but extremely compliant. I clicked it out 6 more clicks than what was provided to really smooth out the front chop, and lost no feeling of control, even on down hills

Frame compliance is limited, as exepted. It really is better than a YZF, but I think some re-torquing of the mounts and possibly some mount mods will change this. 

 

Seat

 

The stock seat is too narrow and hard and low for me.

I need comfort and height.

My seat height mod of 2 5/8" turned out to be correct, but the shape is all wrong; gives you a wedgey all day long...so apart it comes...

 

Clutch

 

The action is great

The lever is not

Very hard to modulate with the stock lever and still hold on going up rocky bowled trails.

I will change to the ARC full perch and lever like on my last WR.

 

Brakes

 

Excellent

Front and rear are a little soft, which just the way I like it.

Front brake lever is also hard to modulate, but I can live with it.

Rear brake pedal after relocation is surprisingly good. 

 

Tires

Stock AT81 front and rear

 

Not a big fan of these tires.

Hard to pin point what the issue is, but the rear tire makes feeling the rear traction very difficult. It also is hard to get used to. Sometimes it's a slider, sometimes it's grabby, sometimes it's scary.

I would not use the rear tire again, and I have tried it on other bikes before with the same result.

The front tire is similar, but it bites better......but it grips TOO well on the extreme sidewall.....when you ride a bowled/deep groove trail, it has a tendency to climb right out of the trail. Fine for sand, but not for other terrain.

 

 

Overall

 

This bike has met my expectations, and will probably exceed them as I get more used to it.

....even though I crashed it twice in the first 3 miles (very steep rocky rutted uphills) because I assumed I could ride it at a lower rpm, and kept stalling it or riding out of the rut....eventually I got used to modulating the clutch on all hills and now that feeling of having to over-ride the uphill trails in order to make it, is gone.

 

I would recommend that anyone buying a stock WR try the stock FX map before getting carried away with alternate maps. 

It's a good place to start. Not very jerky off idle, but more power everywhere. Mine is a FX, but I have ridden WR's in stock, FMF, and custom tune, so I know the difference.

 

I would also recommend being careful with the stock tires, as they dont' offer the most predictable traction. Not dangerous or anything, just vauge and on/off feeling.

 

 

Left to do

 

  • Change the skid plate to Enduro Engineering. Saw one today. The TMD skidplate is kind of a joke. The mounting is odd, not easy to get on and off, and it does NOT protect the frame rails much at all.
  • Fix the seat profile
  • Finish the kick stand mount / weld
  • Change the clutch lever to one that can be positioned
  • Rear tail light functioning with brake light
  • License plate bracket
  • Better ODO/Speedo: I tried out a cycling GPS/Speedo/ODO, and it's kind of cheesy....
  • 4mm tubes front and rear when the tires get changed

Edited by KRANNIE, July 24, 2016 - 10:53 AM.


  • RockerYZWR
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Location: Florida
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Posted July 24, 2016 - 01:44 PM


Do you prefer ARC to ASV? I am looking at a set of ASV C6 levers for my YZ250 that'll work on a potential 450FX as well. The Pro version has a sealed bearing at the clutch pivot. I have never used any aftermarket perch or lever, so I'm still pretty indifferent.

  • Krannie McKranface
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Location: California
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Posted July 24, 2016 - 02:01 PM


I've had both, and they are similar.

 

I have found the ACR DC8 to dramatically reduce clutch pull on previous WR's, using the 25mm throw version (feels like a Honda clutch...)

 

Not cheap, but I have never had to service one in 7 years or riding.....

 

https://arclevers.co...=perch assembly



  • JDLowrance

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594 posts
Location: California

Posted July 25, 2016 - 04:25 PM


Where did you go riding at? And at what time?

Too bloody hot out there in the desert at the moment for me. Would love to get a decent light set-up to be able to ride at night but almost have to wait until 4:00am for the overnight lows to get to a reasonable level before heading out.

Come on Fall!

  • Krannie McKranface
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Posted July 25, 2016 - 05:57 PM


Where did you go riding at? And at what time?

Too bloody hot out there in the desert at the moment for me. Would love to get a decent light set-up to be able to ride at night but almost have to wait until 4:00am for the overnight lows to get to a reasonable level before heading out.

Come on Fall!

 

Drinkwater flats, Coarse Gold Road Kennels staging, all single track off-shoots.

Some of those trials are deceivingly steep and strange...

I would have ridden all day if it weren't for the heavy smoke....and the crashy-crashy part.



  • falconjet

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Location: California

Posted July 26, 2016 - 06:07 AM


Drinkwater flats, Coarse Gold Road Kennels staging, all single track off-shoots.

Some of those trials are deceivingly steep and strange...

I would have ridden all day if it weren't for the heavy smoke....and the crashy-crashy part.

Oh no did you crashy and scratch up the new ride?



  • Krannie McKranface
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Posted July 26, 2016 - 06:20 AM


Oh no did you crashy and scratch up the new ride?

 

Scratchy scratchy lefty and righty and top and bottom and, well, it's just right now.



  • falconjet

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Posted July 26, 2016 - 06:35 AM


Scratchy scratchy lefty and righty and top and bottom and, well, it's just right now.

Yea always good to get the first ones out of the way.

 

So long as they are just on the bike and not the body.

 

Ride safe.



  • Krannie McKranface
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Posted July 26, 2016 - 07:00 AM


Yea always good to get the first ones out of the way.

 

So long as they are just on the bike and not the body.

 

Ride safe.

 

:goofy:



  • Krannie McKranface
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Posted July 26, 2016 - 07:29 AM


Yea always good to get the first ones out of the way.

 

So long as they are just on the bike and not the body.

 

Ride safe.

 

I need to go back to that trail and make it my bitch.

It's one of those trails that in the morning you are riding into the sun, and the trail is bowled about 12" deep, and jagged/surpentine, and full of little baby-heads. 

It's just steep enough that if you shut off, you going to have to start over. 

It's not a long or hard trail section at all, it just kind of comes out of no where in the middle of the ride, and catches you off guard.

It slapped me down, tweaked my shoulder, pulled/stripped out my hand guard bolt.

No kickstand, so I dropped the bike a few times on both sides trying to get it to stay upright while I retreived my tools.

Because I thought maybe something was wrong (tire pressure, wheel alignment) I turned around and did a different trail. 

After a few miles I realized it was all me. I was counting on the engine to pull lower that it will, and I was not modulating the clutch at all.

Started using the clutch like I should and the (my) problem went away.

A few miles later went up another much harder, much turny-er and ledgey-er section like a pro, and that was that.

Unfortunately, the fire smoke was already getting to me, and I decided to cut my ride very short. 

Some days I just listen to my gut, and change the plan. Usually never, if I am leading the ride...



  • Krannie McKranface
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Posted July 27, 2016 - 08:45 PM


Trail Tech computer install (mount only so far)

 

Ebay $16 bracket modified

 

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...next comes the heat-shrink tubing over the sensor wire and brake hose....

 

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  • Summit

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Location: Montana

Posted July 28, 2016 - 08:22 AM


Nice work. I think you have more hours working on the bike than riding it. (:

Edited by Summit, July 28, 2016 - 10:15 AM.


  • RR@ARS

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Location: California

Posted July 28, 2016 - 11:50 AM


FYI - Sicass Racing makes a rear brake switch that's a "plug and play" designed for the Yamaha oem taillight.  Kinda spendy but it does fit and work on the 2016's

 

http://sicassracing....wr_brake_switch

 



  • Krannie McKranface
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Posted July 28, 2016 - 12:56 PM


Nice work. I think you have more hours working on the bike than riding it. (:

 

So far, yes. About 20 working, 2 riding...



  • Krannie McKranface
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Posted July 28, 2016 - 12:57 PM


FYI - Sicass Racing makes a rear brake switch that's a "plug and play" designed for the Yamaha oem taillight.  Kinda spendy but it does fit and work on the 2016's

 

http://sicassracing....wr_brake_switch

 

Mine is an FX, and I haven't found that harness plug yet, but I will.



  • JDLowrance

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594 posts
Location: California

Posted July 28, 2016 - 07:59 PM


How are routing the front YZ brake line with the headlight in place?

  • Krannie McKranface
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Posted July 29, 2016 - 05:08 AM


How are routing the front YZ brake line with the headlight in place

 

....not terribly well, that's how... 

 

I slid the brake line up in the lower clamp to get a bit more room.

 

The YZF brake line seems to be shorter than the WR brake line.

It's tight, and it rubs tightly agains the side of the light shroud.



  • JDLowrance

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594 posts
Location: California

Posted July 29, 2016 - 07:09 AM


Yep...the WR brake line is easily 4-5 inches longer in order to clear the headlight shroud.

Might be a good reason to swap it out and get a SS braided line. You'll need the top triple clamp brake line guide as well to keep it from flapping around in your face.

Like the looks of that Tailtech unit. Magnetic pickup?

Cheers

  • falconjet

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Location: California

Posted July 29, 2016 - 07:13 AM


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James Bond had Kitty( actually the P word) Galore.

 

Krannie has dirt bikes galore.

 

 

 







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