What model year is this?



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  • SinisterMatti

Posted March 05, 2016 - 06:04 AM

#1

Hello all, 

 

I'm a first time poster and I'm going to be picking up this WR450F later today. I have been reading up on mods, and common issues, and I noticed the subframe looks different in the pictures on the ad than what I'm seeing in How-To threads for 2008 model year. Could someone confirm the model year on this bike for me based on these pictures? 

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  • jimmym

Posted March 05, 2016 - 06:11 AM

#2

WRs went to an aluminum frame in 2007, meaning this steel frame bike is 2006 or older. Others here can probably help you narrow it down by looking at it, but I would start by asking the owner for the VIN.

  • SinisterMatti

Posted March 05, 2016 - 06:24 AM

#3

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm trying to get the VIN now, but it's early and he's not replying yet. The bike is several towns over, so I'm supposed to leave in the next 3 hours to pick it up. According to him the bike has a rebuilt top end, and looks like new. How much would you reasonably pay for a 2006 or older in that condition? I was going to give him $3,400 when I thought it was a 2008, but that seems like a lot for a 2006 or older model.


Edited by SinisterMatti, March 05, 2016 - 06:27 AM.


  • blaster007

Posted March 05, 2016 - 06:44 AM

#4

The other thing that will indicate the year is the cluster assembly is 2006 and newer have a digital dash. The 2006 and older had a ton of engine failure issues too. If you can find 2007 and newer would be a good idea.

  • SinisterMatti

Posted March 05, 2016 - 06:47 AM

#5

It does have a digital dash, so it must be a 2006. Thanks for all the advice. I'm going to hold out and try to find a 2007+



  • stevethe

Posted March 05, 2016 - 06:57 AM

#6

The other thing that will indicate the year is the cluster assembly is 2006 and newer have a digital dash. The 2006 and older had a ton of engine failure issues too. If you can find 2007 and newer would be a good idea.


My understanding is in 03 or 04 they had a few issues with the flywheel key and the electric starter parts were upgraded. That's about it.

  • blaster007

Posted March 05, 2016 - 07:39 AM

#7

The older engines relied on the rough ride/ splash to lubricate certain areas of the engine, I believe the wrist pin was one of them. That's why there is a high rate of failure of the bikes used for smooth highway use. There is a mod you can do to fix this problem but it involves a different oil pump and a bit of case machining.

  • JDLowrance

Posted March 05, 2016 - 08:14 AM

#8

The older engines relied on the rough ride/ splash to lubricate certain areas of the engine, I believe the wrist pin was one of them. That's why there is a high rate of failure of the bikes used for smooth highway use. There is a mod you can do to fix this problem but it involves a different oil pump and a bit of case machining.


Sorry friend but someone fed you a load of bullocks....WR motors have proven very reliable, if not bullet proof when maintained properly.

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  • JDLowrance

Posted March 05, 2016 - 08:22 AM

#9

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm trying to get the VIN now, but it's early and he's not replying yet. The bike is several towns over, so I'm supposed to leave in the next 3 hours to pick it up. According to him the bike has a rebuilt top end, and looks like new. How much would you reasonably pay for a 2006 or older in that condition? I was going to give him $3,400 when I thought it was a 2008, but that seems like a lot for a 2006 or older model.


Keep searching...you should be able to do a lot better than this guy's 2003-2006 masquerading as a 2008 for $3.5k. I sold my 2009 WR in 2012 for $4k...and the bike was mint.

Not sure how much you now about bikes (or four strokes in particular) but you have to be very careful when buying one. If the previous owner did not take care of the bike properly you'll end up with a time bomb on your hands that could cost you as much or more as the original purchase price to fix once it lets go.

Good luck with your search.

  • Krannie McKranface

Posted March 06, 2016 - 06:40 AM

#10

Nothing wrong with the 2003-06 motors having to do with lubrication, at all.

Most problems were caused by dirty oil blocking the oil pump and filter passage.

 

Starter motor clutch and flywheel keyway  were the only 'flaws', that were addressed by Yamaha and can be retrofitted.



  • JVP

Posted March 07, 2016 - 07:14 AM

#11

Nothing wrong with the 2003-06 motors having to do with lubrication, at all.

Most problems were caused by dirty oil blocking the oil pump and filter passage.

 

Starter motor clutch and flywheel keyway  were the only 'flaws', that were addressed by Yamaha and can be retrofitted.

Agreed.  The 2003-2004 motors are Builit Proof.  My 04 has never been torn down and has over 15K miles on it.  Only the 03 had the Woodruff Key issue and that was fixed and was a recall item.  However, If I could get $3,400 for mine, I would be happy and would sell it too.  I would knock him down to under 3K



  • grayracer513

Posted March 07, 2016 - 12:06 PM

#12

The "mod" referred to was the addition of a piston crown cooling oil spray nozzle added to the Gen2 engine ('06 YZ450, '07 WR) .  It actually had nothing to do with lubrication, although it would obviously increase the oil to the wrist pin.  Any of the Yamaha 450's have a frankly remarkable record of reliability.  Some of the best in the business, actually.  This "ton of engine failure issues" is plain BS. 

 

For one thing, the first through third generation engines are all dry sump, so there isn't anything in the sump to splash, and even those engines where indirect, throw-off, or "splash" lubrication is a feature, it does not depend on a rough road surface for the system to operate. 

 

Good example of bad information.



  • dslate

Posted March 19, 2016 - 11:21 AM

#13

I got a deal on my 03 wr450f, it came with Litz raceing suspension and forks, twin air system, 3 gallon gas tank, and I haven't even really opened the engine up to see what's in it. But I got the bike for 1700. Tbh 3,400 for even a 2008 seems steep. The bike isn't a 08. Also be careful what year of bike you get because from my understanding at one point Yamaha switched to a 4 gear transmission and those where not really favorable.

  • jorgen_blok1

Posted March 19, 2016 - 11:38 AM

#14

I got a deal on my 03 wr450f, it came with Litz raceing suspension and forks, twin air system, 3 gallon gas tank, and I haven't even really opened the engine up to see what's in it. But I got the bike for 1700. Tbh 3,400 for even a 2008 seems steep. The bike isn't a 08. Also be careful what year of bike you get because from my understanding at one point Yamaha switched to a 4 gear transmission and those where not really favorable.


Pics or didn't happen hehehe

  • dslate

Posted March 19, 2016 - 08:39 PM

#15


Pics or didn't happen hehehe

look at these^
This is what mine looked like when I got it home and before I took it off the truck.

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  • ftl900

Posted March 21, 2016 - 08:53 AM

#16

There are deals out there, you just have to look.   I picked up my 2003 WR450 for $1600, already plated but needing a new starter and battery.

It's still a work in progress, but my target price range was $2500, so I figure I can afford to upgrade things a bit.

 

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Edited by ftl900, March 21, 2016 - 08:53 AM.


  • DrFeelGood

Posted March 21, 2016 - 10:25 AM

#17

I got a new 2008 from dealer overstock in 2012.  $4200 out the door, brand spanking new (and with a new battery).

 

I'd be hunting for a better deal.






 
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