Keeping a YZ450 cool for single track


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  • GHILL28

Posted December 15, 2015 - 05:33 PM

#21

It's usually a bunch of crap.  The limiting factor is the rate of convection (related to air speed over the fins).  Moving the hot fluid to the fins faster, then back away from it faster won't do anything if the convection rate isn't optimized equally.  It does pull the hotter fluid away from the motor faster, that's all.  Once the entire system is hot I doubt it does much.

 

Probably just works a lot better than a worn out stock water pump..



  • grayracer513

Posted December 15, 2015 - 06:59 PM

#22

Your last paragraph.....this is why sometimes I wonder how/if those aftermarket water pumps are always able to back up their claims. I understand the pumps with more or bigger blades on them can move more coolant, but can it not also move more coolant through and out of the radiator before the radiator has the chance to do it's thing? Along the same lines, the coolant lines from my and most bikes goes from the head/cylinder to the top of one radiator where there is a crossover tube to the other radiator and then the bottom of both radiators plumb back to the pump. It would probably be a hassle due to the extra plumbing, but seems like it would be more efficient if it went from the head/cylinder to the top of one radiator with no crossover tube then to the bottom of that radiator, then to the top of the other radiator and then out the bottom of that one to the pump. Maybe it wouldn't make enough difference.


The thing to remember is that the coolant in the system also works via convection. That is, the faster it flows over a hot surface, the better it draws heat from it, and the faster it flows through the radiator, the faster it hands off heat to that surface, provided it is cooler than the coolant. So as long as you have good convective cooling of the outside of the radiator, the faster you circulate it, the better it works, within limits.

I doubt you'd see any improvement by way of the alternate plumbing routing you suggest. Water files into the radiator top tank on the left, where it encounters enough resistance to encourage it to flow across to the opposite side, then down through both sides tithe bottom tanks, then out. Not much advantage in splitting the outlets the tanks just to converge them again at slower point.

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  • Wiz636

Posted December 15, 2015 - 07:35 PM

#23

The $10 or whatever it is the Engine Ice costs also is the price of not having to do some bathtub methlab-level shit to get decent coolant...

 

I guess if you consider mixing two inert liquids and then a capful of a third inert liquid a big deal and "bathtub meth lab level shit", then you probably should spend the $18.95 on Engine Ice.

 

Generally speaking, dirt bike riders tend to be natural tinkerers and enjoy tinkering with the things they can, especially if it saves money or produces a better product.  But not everybody is the same.



  • Wiz636

Posted December 15, 2015 - 07:41 PM

#24

A motor is an air pump so the more air you get the cooler it can run if the cooling system is working properly on liquid cooled motors. The higher the rpms get the more coolant you can pump through the system to try to get the heat out of the motor.

 

Again, I wouldn't do that. Without increasing airflow through the radiators all you are doing is increasing the heat.







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