2016 handling. Looking for help and ideas.


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  • Ctown208

Posted November 15, 2015 - 08:09 PM

#1

So picked up a 16 yz450f. Got the suspension all set for my weight and that made a world of difference.
I still trying to get the cornering down on this bike. It just doesn't seem to want to track right in a corner.

I've read a few ideas such as the triple clamp offset needing to go back to a 22. I've also seen people saying to raise the forks in the clamp.

Right now I think my forks are about 3mm above the top clamp.

Before I go chasing my tail I think I need to learn what dose what.

Seems like most the links in the stickie threads don't work for some reason.


If I was to go back to a 22 triple clamp what's a good one to get? Is used oem a option? Can't seem to find one on eBay cheap.


Thanks in advance

  • GHILL28

Posted November 15, 2015 - 08:43 PM

#2

Saw this pop up.  Some stuff is kinda pricey, but the triples aren't a bad deal.

 

http://inlandempire....5251501773.html



  • rob298mx

Posted November 15, 2015 - 08:55 PM

#3

Been discussed a few times already. Buy a 143.5 pull rod, most of your issues go away, I have the same bike, I am running 106mm (per factory connection) for sag I may run closer to 100mm to put some more weight on the front and help it track more.

  • Monk

Posted November 15, 2015 - 09:37 PM

#4

I had the shock lowered... 95mm of sag, etc etc...

Would put bank on it being the best handling Yamaha you would ever ride. Only took me 150hrs to figure it out though...

  • GHILL28

Posted November 15, 2015 - 09:49 PM

#5

I still don't see what that accomplished since you have the same ride height as with 105mm sag and no spacer?

  • Ctown208

Posted November 15, 2015 - 10:06 PM

#6

So pull rod and triple clamp or just the pull rod? Or just the triple clamp? Lol

Edited by Ctown208, November 15, 2015 - 10:09 PM.


  • Monk

Posted November 16, 2015 - 06:20 AM

#7

I still don't see what that accomplished since you have the same ride height as with 105mm sag and no spacer?


Not really, I have no free sag either because my shock is topping out...

  • stevethe

Posted November 16, 2015 - 07:10 AM

#8

I had the shock lowered... 95mm of sag, etc etc...
Would put bank on it being the best handling Yamaha you would ever ride. Only took me 150hrs to figure it out though...


Hum how far did you lower the shock and is it a better option then the Pro circuit lowering link.

  • Monk

Posted November 16, 2015 - 07:18 AM

#9

Hum how far did you lower the shock and is it a better option then the Pro circuit lowering link.


Never tried the link so the short answer is I don't know. The link stiffens the first part of the stroke up a bit too doesn't it? I don't imagine that would be the best for offroad. I have a 4mm spacer in which pull the rear end down something like 12mm...

  • stevethe

Posted November 16, 2015 - 07:33 AM

#10

Never tried the link so the short answer is I don't know. The link stiffens the first part of the stroke up a bit too doesn't it? I don't imagine that would be the best for offroad. I have a 4mm spacer in which pull the rear end down something like 12mm...


Your way is likely better.

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  • Ctown208

Posted November 16, 2015 - 07:57 AM

#11

Never tried the link so the short answer is I don't know. The link stiffens the first part of the stroke up a bit too doesn't it? I don't imagine that would be the best for offroad. I have a 4mm spacer in which pull the rear end down something like 12mm...

Do you have a pic

  • GHILL28

Posted November 16, 2015 - 08:43 AM

#12

Not really, I have no free sag either because my shock is topping out...

 

Does it get harsh when the wheel drops out completely then hits a bump because of all the preload?


Edited by GHILL28, November 16, 2015 - 08:43 AM.


  • Monk

Posted November 16, 2015 - 08:48 AM

#13

Does it get harsh when the wheel drops out completely then hits a bump because of all the preload?


Not at all

  • Edge316

Posted November 19, 2015 - 08:43 PM

#14

I called Enzo Racing yesterday and asked about the cornering issues on the 2014-2016 yz450fs. Enzo is recommending a 3mm spacer to lower the shock.They are not recommending a lowering link. I've had great luck with Enzo and will be having them revalve my suspension in the next few weeks. I'll let you guys know how it works.If anyone else has used Enzo on their 2014-2016 let me know how it worked out.

Edited by Edge316, November 19, 2015 - 09:14 PM.


  • Monk

Posted November 19, 2015 - 09:08 PM

#15

I called Enzo Racing yesterday and asked about the cornering issues on the 2014-2016 yz450fs. Enzo is recommending a 3mm spacer to lower the shock.They are not recommending a lowering link. I've great luck with Enzo and will be having them revalve my suspension in the next few weeks. I'll let you guys know how it works.If anyone else has used Enzo on their 2014-2016 let me know how it worked out.


Winning!

  • WARider525

Posted November 20, 2015 - 07:41 AM

#16

I called Enzo Racing yesterday and asked about the cornering issues on the 2014-2016 yz450fs. Enzo is recommending a 3mm spacer to lower the shock.They are not recommending a lowering link. I've had great luck with Enzo and will be having them revalve my suspension in the next few weeks. I'll let you guys know how it works.If anyone else has used Enzo on their 2014-2016 let me know how it worked out.


Is the 3mm spacer something they add to the shock internally?

  • Edge316

Posted November 20, 2015 - 07:59 AM

#17

Yes it's added internally to the shock

  • Monk

Posted November 20, 2015 - 08:40 AM

#18

I think the 25mm offset combined with the 3mm spacer plate is going to make for some weight handling characteristics.

  • Edge316

Posted November 20, 2015 - 07:27 PM

#19

So are you suggesting the 22mm triple clamp with the spacer?

  • Monk

Posted November 20, 2015 - 07:41 PM

#20

So are you suggesting the 22mm triple clamp with the spacer?


Don't know. Haven't researched much on the new chassis over my 15. I know the changes go farther then just the offset as frame changes were made too. I would be worried with a 3mm spacer and softer shock spring the bike is going to be a bit chopped out...
What spring rates are you running?





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