G-Damm it Yamaha, I expect to see the YZ450FX by spring, OK?



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  • Krannie McKranface

Posted November 02, 2014 - 06:36 PM

#1

I'm not kidding.....there will be BLOOD if we don't get a good e-start cross-country bike from ONE of you motorcycle companies in Asia......GDAMN IT!

 

It should be you, YAMAHA, as we trust you to make products that actuall last, and are not fragile, with normal ergos.

 

 

 

   *** DO IT ! ***



  • revelc

Posted November 02, 2014 - 06:52 PM

#2

Having just bought a bike I'd be pretty pissed.


2014 WRR-Totalled
2012 WR450F-Stolen
2012 WR450F-Third bikes the charm.

  • MidlifeCrisisGuy

Posted November 02, 2014 - 07:14 PM

#3

Make your own, krannie. All the parts are easily available.

The only new part on the yz250fx is the starter on the yz250f engine. And the 6 speed gearset. Everything else is straight off the yammie parts shelf. If you start with a wr450f, its already got a starter. Add/remove parts as you see fit.

Other than having a starter and the reverse engine layout, the yz450fx isnt going to be much different than the bike i built. If its anything like mine, its going to rip.

Edited by MidlifeCrisisGuy, November 02, 2014 - 07:21 PM.


  • KennyMc

Posted November 02, 2014 - 07:35 PM

#4

the yz450fx isnt going to be much different than the bike i built. If its anything like mine, its going to rip.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :facepalm:

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  • Krannie McKranface

Posted November 02, 2014 - 07:46 PM

#5

Well, the FX has a new kind of starter set up, like the Beta, and it saves almost 11lbs over the current 250Wr's set up, with the starter mech alone...

 

That's the thing.



  • wadzi90

Posted November 02, 2014 - 07:47 PM

#6

I can't believe they didn't make a 450fx or at least the wr450 a six speed

  • Krannie McKranface

Posted November 02, 2014 - 07:50 PM

#7

I can buy a BRAND NEW 2008 YZ450F for $3995 and try and build my own.....

 

 

http://orangecounty....4716871841.html



  • MidlifeCrisisGuy

Posted November 02, 2014 - 07:54 PM

#8

Well, the FX has a new kind of starter set up, like the Beta, and it saves almost 11lbs over the current 250Wr's set up, with the starter mech alone...

 

That's the thing.

 

The whole starter system on the WR450F is only 10 ish pounds.  The WR250F's starter system is probably lighter than the WR450F's starter system.  Hard to save more than a few pounds there.



  • Krannie McKranface

Posted November 02, 2014 - 07:58 PM

#9

The whole starter system on the WR450F is only 10 ish pounds.  The WR250F's starter system is probably lighter than the WR450F's starter system.  Hard to save more than a few pounds there.

 

I am talking about the new YZFX starter system AND MOTOR, the cases and harness and all included parts, are 11lbs lighter than the old WR250 version motor

 

I didn't phrase it right



  • MidlifeCrisisGuy

Posted November 02, 2014 - 08:01 PM

#10

 

Name what is going to be different ?

 

The shock will be a YZ model.  Same as has been used since 2006.  Valving will be model specific, but most of us will need a respring/revalve anyway.

Forks will be SSS, same as been used since 2008.  Valving will be model specific, but most of us will need a respring/revalve anyway.

The reverse cylinder engine, if they use it, is standard YZ fare, tuned differently.  But the current WR engine, especially with various YZ parts, isn't lacking at all.

The frame will be based on YZ bike, maybe the 250F.  Not much change there.

18 inch rear wheel.  Check.

 

The rest of the bits and pieces are standard Yamaha fare.  And Yamaha will be lucky to get the 450FX has light as my WR is.  My WR is about the same weight as the YZ250FX and the YZ450FX will be heavier.


I am talking about the new YZFX starter system AND MOTOR, the cases and harness and all included parts, are 11lbs lighter than the old WR250 version motor

 

I didn't phrase it right

 

Then you have a good point, especially since the YZFX is fuel injected, which usually adds a couple pounds.  If you are telling me that the engine package on a YZ450FX would be 11 pounds lighter than the engine package on our WR450Fs, I am extremely interested !


Edited by MidlifeCrisisGuy, November 02, 2014 - 08:02 PM.


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  • Krannie McKranface

Posted November 02, 2014 - 08:27 PM

#11

I don't know about the 450, but according to Yam, the WR250 motor and ignition system and harness is 11 lbs lighter then the 250FX motor and ingnition system and harness (battery excluded on both).

The 450 probably won't be as big a difference.



  • KennyMc

Posted November 02, 2014 - 10:36 PM

#12

Name what is going to be different ?

 

You mean other than backwards facing engine and the associated "mass centralization" of it.  Ok, then nothing :facepalm: .....your a &%$#@!ing broken record with your frankenbike that you have never weighed. :lol:  :lol:  .



  • wadzi90

Posted November 02, 2014 - 10:46 PM

#13

I'd rather have a yzfx than a modded wr. Who wouldn't want a six speed e start yz. It looks a lot cooler too.

  • MidlifeCrisisGuy

Posted November 02, 2014 - 10:50 PM

#14

I'd rather have a yzfx than a modded wr. Who wouldn't want a six speed e start yz. It looks a lot cooler too.

 

Who said its going to be a 6 speed ?  The YZ450s already make enough power to break the 5 speeds.   Adding another gear and keeping it strong wouldn't be easy.



  • wadzi90

Posted November 02, 2014 - 10:54 PM

#15

I think it would be. Even a wide ratio five speed in a yz would be better to me. Yz cams, uncorked, and probably lighter. Plus it looks cooler. Ktms have six speed 450's, why wouldn't Yamaha?

Edited by wadzi90, November 02, 2014 - 10:55 PM.


  • shrubitup

Posted November 02, 2014 - 11:14 PM

#16

I can buy a BRAND NEW 2008 YZ450F for $3995 and try and build my own.....

 

 

http://orangecounty....4716871841.html

Have fun with that. I had a 2009. Nice bike except it didn't like to re-start well at all. I will never own another kick/fcr combo again. No thanks. The YZFX has FI and e-start. Beautiful and req'd for a off-road four stroke IMO. 



  • revelc

Posted November 03, 2014 - 03:23 AM

#17

Having just bought a bike I'd be pretty pissed.


2014 WRR-Totalled
2012 WR450F-Stolen
2012 WR450F-Third bikes the charm.

  • cracker please

Posted November 03, 2014 - 04:47 AM

#18

I'm not gonna rush out and buy one.  I'd love to have a 6 speed but I'd wait and try to find a deal on a leftover in a couple years.



  • patrick2wd

Posted November 03, 2014 - 07:59 AM

#19

in the eu we have YZ's, the injection ones, with lights and road legal,

and some companies build an enduro-ratio g/b to exchange the short, mx gears..



  • PBDBLUE

Posted November 03, 2014 - 08:17 AM

#20

I'm not kidding.....there will be BLOOD if we don't get a good e-start cross-country bike from ONE of you motorcycle companies in Asia......GDAMN IT!

 

It should be you, YAMAHA, as we trust you to make products that actuall last, and are not fragile, with normal ergos.

 

 

 

   *** DO IT ! ***

I get a kick out of every time you rant about ergo's. By your own admission any bike with ergo's to fit you would be way out of wack for the average size rider.






 
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