2012 WR450 and Endurocross not a good match.


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  • torkd14

Posted September 22, 2014 - 04:34 AM

#1

This is probably a well known fact but I gave it a try. This past weekend was the RedBull Rocks and Logs event in Calgary Alberta. I entered with my WR thinking "I'm a pretty tough guy I could pick it up a couple times" but a couple times turned into at least ten times. I was wishing I had a KX100 or KTM150 by the 2nd lap. I will be using my YZ450 next year the WR has been retired from Endurocross, she's to fat and I'm a wuss. ImageUploadedByThumper Talk1411393016.121395.jpg ImageUploadedByThumper Talk1411393053.003234.jpg

  • RockerYZWR

Posted September 22, 2014 - 07:11 AM

#2

Very cool. The GP race I did yesterday had an endurocross section (in a 10 mile loop that was mx track, 1st gear rocky technical, sand washes, and silty/rocky/rutted out switchback hill climbs) and I was shown my physical limits quickly. I rode my YZ250 with a Rekluse for this race and was thinking during the prerun on Saturday how glad I was that wasn't on the WR. It would have been a lot tougher for me. Picking up or trying to reposition even something like a 250 2T saps your energy really quickly; a heavier bike is disproportionately worse. I was very humbled by this weekend - when I get exhausted, I get SLOW!

Racing gives you the appreciation that there are some amazing riders out there who will never amount to anything in riding (in a public/famous sense). And most I think are fine with that.

  • bobpara

Posted September 22, 2014 - 07:51 AM

#3

Wow! Those telephone poles look tricky, esp how they are spaced!



  • YamaLink

Posted September 22, 2014 - 10:21 AM

#4

At least you tried! I bet others were like "that is one baaaaad dude" to line up on the WR450.



  • RockerYZWR

Posted September 22, 2014 - 10:32 AM

#5

And just so I'm being clear with my post - that is bad ass!  Those logs are friggin' huge and the skill required to get over them with that spacing, especially on something like a WR450, is definitely underrated.  Again, very cool.  



  • torkd14

Posted September 22, 2014 - 03:46 PM

#6

You'll have to keep an eye out for a video when RedBull releases one. Kyle Redmond came up and made the course look like a cake walk. I've never witnessed a rider of his caliber dominate such a challenging course flawlessly until this weekend. Really opens my eyes to how much training and skill they really have.

  • revelc

Posted September 22, 2014 - 07:31 PM

#7

This is probably a well known fact but I gave it a try. This past weekend was the RedBull Rocks and Logs event in Calgary Alberta. I entered with my WR thinking "I'm a pretty tough guy I could pick it up a couple times" but a couple times turned into at least ten times. I was wishing I had a KX100 or KTM150 by the 2nd lap. I will be using my YZ450 next year the WR has been retired from Endurocross, she's to fat and I'm a wuss. attachicon.gifImageUploadedByThumper Talk1411393016.121395.jpgattachicon.gifImageUploadedByThumper Talk1411393053.003234.jpg


How big are you?
I feel like 250 bikes are really strained and slow for a guy my size.


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  • shawnhaas

Posted September 22, 2014 - 08:13 PM

#8

Nice pics
I rode the tko enduro in tn in August and met up with a guy a couple miles in (he had wr450) he was flat out exhausted looking for a way off the trail.
I was on a trials bike and almost dead after two hours I can only imagine how he felt.

This is my helmet cam from the first knockout race



This is me sitting on the sidelines watching Cody Webb dominate in the final


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  • torkd14

Posted September 22, 2014 - 08:15 PM

#9

How big are you?
I feel like 250 bikes are really strained and slow for a guy my size.


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I'm 6'3 220 lbs and I agree with you, I've only ridden 450's since I was 15 now 24. Endurocross is the only riding I want a smaller, lighter bike for. If you have ever tried a professionally built quality track you know a WR is not the right bike. It's great for everything else though.

From what little experience I have (just from doing the Redbull race this year and last) you don't need big power for EX racing. You need low end power to launch logs and light weight for quick "bike tossing" maneuvers. I think a 250 two stroke would work great and If I were to get into EX a little more I'd probably set up a nice YZ250 2T for it.

Edited by torkd14, September 22, 2014 - 08:42 PM.


  • revelc

Posted September 22, 2014 - 08:24 PM

#10

I'm 6'3 220 lbs and I agree with you, I've only ridden 450's since I was 15 now 24. Endurocross is the only riding I want a smaller, lighter bike for. If you have ever tried a professionally built quality track you know a WR is not the right bike. It's great for everything else though.

From what little experience I have (just from doing the Redbull race this year and last) you don't need big power for EX racing. You need low end power to launch logs and light weight for quick "bike tossing" maneuvers. I think a 250 two stroke would work great and If I were to get into EX a little more I'd probably set up a nice YZ250 2T for it.


Thanks for the reply. We are actually the same size and weight ha. I've never made it onto a pro track. I've ridden the expert level loop they used for a Texas enduro champ circuit last year and it is indeed a workout.

It would be fun to try but I bet your right about the 2T bikes being easier.

You have gonads of steel for giving it a go. Ride on man!


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  • MANIAC998

Posted September 23, 2014 - 02:08 AM

#11

Nice pics
I rode the tko enduro in tn in August and met up with a guy a couple miles in (he had wr450) he was flat out exhausted looking for a way off the trail.
I was on a trials bike and almost dead after two hours I can only imagine how he felt.

This is my helmet cam from the first knockout race



This is me sitting on the sidelines watching Cody Webb dominate in the final

Nice job with the video!



  • shawnhaas

Posted September 23, 2014 - 02:31 PM

#12

Thanks I enjoy recording the rides. I'm always trying to get a better angle. Still haven't found a great way to show how steep the hills are. I always think this was a monster hill then watch it back and it looks so easy.

  • DunmireD001

Posted September 23, 2014 - 03:47 PM

#13

I agree. Took my wr426 out for a "hard enduro" trail ride when I first got it. After 2 hours and 25 miles I was exhausted and wanted off of that bike.
Here was my list of complaints:

Bike was too tall to hold on steep slippery surfaces.

Kick starting it was a bitch once stalled.

Bike liked to get hott in tight sections.

Bike was overpowered through most of the ride and I rarely got out of second.

Bike was heavy as hell.

Other than that it was fine, but I left that day wishing I had a smaller wr250r electric start.

  • shawnhaas

Posted September 23, 2014 - 04:27 PM

#14

I hear you man, once you start fighting the bike it makes for a long long day

  • revelc

Posted September 23, 2014 - 05:31 PM

#15

I agree. Took my wr426 out for a "hard enduro" trail ride when I first got it. After 2 hours and 25 miles I was exhausted and wanted off of that bike.
Here was my list of complaints:

Bike was too tall to hold on steep slippery surfaces.

Kick starting it was a bitch once stalled.

Bike liked to get hott in tight sections.

Bike was overpowered through most of the ride and I rarely got out of second.

Bike was heavy as hell.

Other than that it was fine, but I left that day wishing I had a smaller wr250r electric start.


The WR250R was fun on single track but when logs or ledges came up it made my butthole pucker up. The little bike just didn't have the beans for the rough stuff.


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  • DunmireD001

Posted September 23, 2014 - 05:34 PM

#16

[quote name="revelc" post="11902649" timestamp="1411522300"]The WR250R was fun on single track but when logs or ledges came up it made my butthole pucker up. The little bike just didn't have the beans for the rough stuff.


Yeah that's the other worry, which is what has me leaning towards maybe a husaberg 300cc 2 stroke, or a husky.

  • revelc

Posted September 23, 2014 - 05:44 PM

#17

[quote name="DunmireD001" post="11902655" timestamp="1411522472"][quote name="revelc" post="11902649" timestamp="1411522300"]The WR250R was fun on single track but when logs or ledges came up it made my butthole pucker up. The little bike just didn't have the beans for the rough stuff.


Yeah that's the other worry, which is what has me leaning towards maybe a husaberg 300cc 2 stroke, or a husky.[/quote]

If you can wrestle the 450 go for it. Power on tap will make up for the weight. Although the weight of the 250R makes downhills and climbs feel much more planted.

I would love a 350 EXC for a double duty ride.


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