Supercross How many?

[Bucknuts21]

Hmm, so that would have meant KR who didn't Q for Salt Lake 2 seasons ago, could race just because of where he stood in points. Sounds a lot like NASCRAP.

Yeah exactly, a guy goes in to qualifying and doesn't make the cut he can't race that day. But a handful of guys wouldn't even need to show up to make it. Seems odd to me that's all.

[OKVet]

Yeah exactly, a guy goes in to qualifying and doesn't make the cut he can't race that day. But a handful of guys wouldn't even need to show up to make it. Seems odd to me that's all.

You may be thinking one thing, while I am another? Villo didn't practice in Toronto, so technically didn't qualify to race in heats. He didn't qualify out of the heat race (he was given a provisional position) and was forced to go to Semi 2. He did take 2nd in the Semi,which allowed him to race the main. I think you're saying if he doesn't quality to race the heats, he should be out for the night. See supercross rule below  Note: This only applies to 450, not lites.

 

 

4.17 Qualifying

e. In the 450SX class only, a rider who is currently in the Top 10 in points who fails to make the Fast 40 in qualifying practices will be placed on the 21st gate pick in the first heat race. A second (NQT10) in qualifying practices will have the 21st gate pick in the second heat race. Up to a maximum total of 2 NQT10 riders can be placed in each heat race. They will be placed in their respective heat race in priority of their position in the top 10. (For the first race of the season: according to previous year's final standings).

[redrider144]

JS7 is starting to become more of a distraction than anything else.  First Alderall, now IVs?  What next?  I have no idea if any other riders are doing it, I'm not sure I care.  Rules should be followed, everyone should have to abide by them.  If one guy gets an IV and others don't, that clearly puts him at an advantage.  

[MotorBoatin]

JS7 is starting to become more of a distraction than anything else

Starting???

It's been five years

[redrider144]

Starting???

It's been five years

 

Agreed, "starting" was a poor choice of words.  It's really taken a downhill turn though.  He's gone from main tent to sideshow freak. The drama right now is all self-imposed too.  

[hyper7driver]

Then educate me. If Im mistaken, something that has happened before, the rules say a rider can't receive an IV on the day of competition. Its the same rule that kept Reed ftom getti g one in 08. 

 

You're mistaken. You're not allowed an IV for your illness, dehydration, or whatever is being treated by the IV is a "result of participating in the event." RV's illness was not a result from the event participation, but Stewie's was.

 

RV's illness was most probably a side effect resulting from taking a masking drug. No rule against taking an IV in such instance, or taking a masking drug, but the drug being masked however........

 

I do hope I'm wrong however about RV. Stewie however, the evidence is clear, one can only come to an obvious conclusion.

[hyper7driver]

 

Im not accusing RV of anything. If you read the rule book as its written, he didn't break any rules. The problem is most don't understand the rules or a contract when they read them. 

 

The same goes for Stewy, every knuckle head is whining and bitching about him riding the nationals, the rules let him. 

 

The only reason Stewie is riding is cause in our culture if a bunch of old white men penalize a black man for breaking the rules it's considered unfair racism. I guess we need some black AMA officials?

[OKVet]

You're mistaken. You're not allowed an IV for your illness, dehydration, or whatever is being treated by the IV is a "result of participating in the event." RV's illness was not a result from the event participation, but Stewie's was.

 

RV's illness was most probably a side effect resulting from taking a masking drug. No rule against taking an IV in such instance, or taking a masking drug, but the drug being masked however........

 

I do hope I'm wrong however about RV. Stewie however, the evidence is clear, one can only come to an obvious conclusion.

You're correct, but you need to quote the whole rule "4.6 Intravenous Hydration a. At no time during the event will a rider receive any type of intravenous hydration unless such hydration is deemed medically necessary by medical personnel as a result of an emergency medical situation (e.g. heat stroke) encountered by a rider, during, or as a result of competing in, an event, practices, heat races or qualifying sessions that are part of an event.  b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the meet including, but not limited to, any further practice sessions, heat races, qualifying sessions or final events composing any event in the meet unless and until the rider is released by the medical personnel who treats the rider for the specific emergency medical situation at issue.

 

RV - medical personnel at the hospital

JS - medical personnel in the Yosh trailer

 

both apparently had the thumbs up from said medical personnel, at least that's what should have taken place. We have no way of knowing

[Stumpalump]

The rules suck. They should be allowed to do what ever they want on their free time. Growth hormones an roids will let them heal faster and go faster. That would be exciting besides think of how entertaining people like Alessi 800 and Mokie 34 would be during their roid rage episodes.

[OKVet]

The rules suck. They should be allowed to do what ever they want on their free time. Growth hormones an roids will let them heal faster and go faster. That would be exciting besides think of how entertaining people like Alessi 800 and Mokie 34 would be during their roid rage episodes.

Half assed cast, practice more...

[hyper7driver]

You're correct, but you need to quote the whole rule "4.6 Intravenous Hydration a. At no time during the event will a rider receive any type of intravenous hydration unless such hydration is deemed medically necessary by medical personnel as a result of an emergency medical situation (e.g. heat stroke) encountered by a rider, during, or as a result of competing in, an event, practices, heat races or qualifying sessions that are part of an event.  b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the meet including, but not limited to, any further practice sessions, heat races, qualifying sessions or final events composing any event in the meet unless and until the rider is released by the medical personnel who treats the rider for the specific emergency medical situation at issue.

 

RV - medical personnel at the hospital

JS - medical personnel in the Yosh trailer

 

both apparently had the thumbs up from said medical personnel, at least that's what should have taken place. We have no way of knowing

 

You're still mistaken, Stewart wasn't being treated for an emergency situation, (example given above is a stroke,) therefore no IV is permitted. RV's IV wasn't during the event or was his illness a result of the event. (Still crossing my fingers his illness is a result of "natural" sickness.)

[Racer_ex]

 Getting food poisoning and getting sick and needing an IV is a hell of a lot different then using one for a competitive advantage in-between moto's. 

 

OP you being such an expert should know this. 

[OKVet]

You're still mistaken, Stewart wasn't being treated for an emergency situation, (example given above is a stroke,) therefore no IV is permitted. RV's IV wasn't during the event or was his illness a result of the event. (Still crossing my fingers his illness is a result of "natural" sickness.)

RV was taken to hospital during practice (i.e. practice that is part of an event). Was it an emergency situation...who knows but I doubt. It was if you wanted to see RV race that night.

[hyper7driver]

RV was taken to hospital during practice (i.e. practice that is part of an event). Was it an emergency situation...who knows but I doubt. It was if you wanted to see RV race that night.

 

But his illness was still not "a result of the event," and was initiated "before" the event. I did want to see him compete, heck, I'd like to see Bubba in it too. But Bubba was trying to get an IV in the middle of the main event, and RV had yet to start.

 

I don't know why so many people have problems interpreting the rules, they really are cut and dry in this case.

[OKVet]

But his illness was still not "a result of the event," and was initiated "before" the event. I did want to see him compete, heck, I'd like to see Bubba in it too. But Bubba was trying to get an IV in the middle of the main event, and RV had yet to start.

 

I don't know why so many people have problems interpreting the rules, they really are cut and dry in this case.

I'm not defending RV or Bubba and I could poke holes in your interpretation of the rule all day long, but it's not worth the effort...let's move on to something worth discussing...DILLA!

[DethWshBkr_]

But his illness was still not "a result of the event," and was initiated "before" the event. I did want to see him compete, heck, I'd like to see Bubba in it too. But Bubba was trying to get an IV in the middle of the main event, and RV had yet to start.

 

I don't know why so many people have problems interpreting the rules, they really are cut and dry in this case.

People can't even decipher the Constitution, which is far more plain text than the AMA rulebook!

[hyper7driver]

People can't even decipher the Constitution, which is far more plain text than the AMA rulebook!

 

Still looking for "separation of church and state."

 

[OKVet]