That price did include tax and everything, I can't remember the details of the break down but it our tax is only 3% here, so that bike at 6k ish is what I would have expected. Yeah that is a great price for that ktm, I think that is what I am going to jump on. The yamaha dealer wants me to call back tomorrow, they are gonna talk to their GM to see if they can do a better price (after I mentioned I was gonna jump on the ktm), but I dunno if I wouldn't rather take the KTM at this point anyway.
ps, I actually went to the dealer and got a final price on the ktm with tax and it was $7240 give or take a few dollars.
Ok...so i dont think it is fair to include sales tax since dealers dont typically include in their advertised prices in trying to understand how it went from $5840 advertised price to $7200. But if sales tax is 3%, which is $180, then they sure are adding a whole bunch of other stuff in there to go from $5840 to $7020 ($7200-180 sales tax). So that is something like $1,180 of other fees. The fine print on their advertisement says:
* Price, if shown, does not include government fees, taxes, dealer vehicle freight/preparation, dealer document preparation charges or any finance charges (if applicable). Final actual sales price will vary depending on options or accessories selected.
Can it possibly be that dealer vehicle freight/prep, dealer document prep could run nearly $1,200? What other 'government fees' could there be? Did you have any other options added to the bike (I am guessing no)? This probably explains why I havent ever bought a new motorcycle. Last and only motorcycle I ever owned (sort of) was the 1974 DT100 that my Dad bought me when I was 12 and was my very first motorcycle.
If I were you and I wanted the WR450F, I would tell dealer that I was willing to pay $6,000 (+ whatever sales tax) and they can call the various charges whatever they want (as long as it doesnt exceed $6K before tax) and see if they will go for it. I personally feel that a brand new 2012 WR450F is worth that kind of money.
The KTM might be worth the money too if that is what you want. I cant say i have ridden one, but I own a Husaberg FE450 (built by KTM) and I have had quite a bit of trouble sorting out suspension and handling (which has never been an issue with me my entire riding career). Very nervous or twitchy handling and i dont like that at higher speeds (a vibration or headshake). Seems like a lot of stories from KTM guys I encounter that they had shell out for some pretty expensive suspension work and a lot of them (seems like 75% or more) run some type of steering damper.
My buddy has a '09 WR450F that is bone stock (suspension-wise) and I think it felt great (compared to my FE450) right out of the box. In fact, I liked his so much after just riding it here and there on the trails, i picked up an '07 WR450F this past winter for $2,950 as my back up bike and a future hand me down for my son when he is ready to move up from his WR250F. Unfortunately for him, it may now be my primary bike and the FE450 is my backup...and he can stay on his WR250F.
Edited by SilvFx, June 26, 2014 - 03:29 PM.