Electric start bad for engine?


13 replies to this topic
  • flyandride

Posted March 29, 2014 - 06:34 PM

#1

I was riding today with someone who had a '13 WR450F.  He said that his mechanic told him to only use the electric start when absolutely necessary. That it's bad for the engine.  And that the engine "gets a memory", so that it will only start with the button.  Also to never use the button until the bike is broken in.  

I've never heard this and think his mechanic is full of shit.  

He also said  that kick starting spins the engine faster, this one I could believe.  

I do all my own work and have an '09 that lights right up with the button so I use it.  

I told him I would ask on TT and tell him what I hear.  What's your take on this? 



  • JVP

Posted March 29, 2014 - 07:42 PM

#2

The E-Button is a great thing. That being said, I think your mechanic is crazy to a point. I never start the bike with the e-start when it is cold. I use the kick start. When the bike is cold (First ride of the day) it does put some stress on the electric motor and the engine due the oil being at the bottom of the case. The bike should start within three kicks. If not you have other issues, such as the valves are tight or carb is out of adjustment. After that I use the magic button the rest of the day. The bike is designed to use the button.

  • KennyMc

Posted March 29, 2014 - 10:20 PM

#3

The E-Button is a great thing. That being said, I think your mechanic is crazy to a point. I never start the bike with the e-start when it is cold. I use the kick start. When the bike is cold (First ride of the day) it does put some stress on the electric motor and the engine due the oil being at the bottom of the case. The bike should start within three kicks. If not you have other issues, such as the valves are tight or carb is out of adjustment. After that I use the magic button the rest of the day. The bike is designed to use the button.

I agree with not using the e-start when the bike is cold, but isn't that just to not put the strain on the electrical system (the battery and the starter).  This would mainly be due to it taking longer to start when cold due to the gas not vaporizing as quickly.  Can't see how it would do any damage to the internals of the motor though.  But, it's been awhile since I've stayed in a Holiday Inn Express :smirk:



  • 707ktm

Posted March 29, 2014 - 10:52 PM

#4

Guess I should put a kicker on my Chevy.

  • still2smokin

Posted March 29, 2014 - 10:59 PM

#5

 

  And that the engine "gets a memory", so that it will only start with the button. 

 

 

http://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0



  • KennyMc

Posted March 29, 2014 - 11:02 PM

#6

Guess I should put a kicker on my Chevy.

Now you're just being silly............right? :lol:



  • GuyGraham

Posted March 30, 2014 - 08:12 AM

#7

He's full of shit, on all points, except regarding kicking turning the engine over faster

 

My 08 has over 350 hour (>7000miles) on it and I have never kicked it, only used the button since new

 

The only point of note, is don't strain the electric starter by cranking it non stop if it doesn't fire up, and if the engine has stalled just past the auto decomp closing and the electric motor won't turn the engine over, just rock it backwards to move the piston back down the bore and allow the auto decomp to work, don't keep trying to do it on the button coz it aint gonna work no matter how many times you press it


Edited by GuyGraham, March 30, 2014 - 08:13 AM.


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  • Krannie McKranface

Posted March 30, 2014 - 01:23 PM

#8

 

I was riding today with someone who had a '13 WR450F.  He said that his mechanic told him to only use the electric start when absolutely necessary. That it's bad for the engine.  And that the engine "gets a memory", so that it will only start with the button.  Also to never use the button until the bike is broken in.  

I've never heard this and think his mechanic is full of shit.  

He also said  that kick starting spins the engine faster, this one I could believe.  

I do all my own work and have an '09 that lights right up with the button so I use it.  

I told him I would ask on TT and tell him what I hear.  What's your take on this? 

 

 

I'ts bullshvt

That person is not a mechanic, he just works at a shop. 

There is a difference.

..and kicking actually spins it faster, but that's not really important



  • flyandride

Posted March 30, 2014 - 04:23 PM

#9

I forgot to mention, the owner of the bike said the frame was titanium!  I know that's BS.  It's aluminum. 



  • Krannie McKranface

Posted March 30, 2014 - 04:41 PM

#10

I forgot to mention, the owner of the bike said the frame was titanium!  I know that's BS.  It's aluminum. 

 

You need to kick this 'owner' in the balls real hard. He's obviously in need of an Ego adjustment.



  • KennyMc

Posted March 30, 2014 - 11:04 PM

#11

You need to kick this 'owner' in the balls real hard. He's obviously in need of an Ego adjustment.

No, he needs to hook up the electric start to the owners balls and crank it for about 10 minutes.........hot or cold :goofy:



  • L. Euler

Posted April 01, 2014 - 05:45 PM

#12

Electric motor start is a very mature science.  It does no harm to the engine or starter motor if used when cold.  My 03 started first compression cold or hot with the estart.  I almost never used the kick starter.



  • grayracer513

Posted April 02, 2014 - 11:07 AM

#13

I forgot to mention, the owner of the bike said the frame was titanium!  I know that's BS.  It's aluminum. 

 

It's the new aluminum titanium.

 

I had a frame made of unobtanium once, but the engine remembered that I used the electric starter and started secret dealings with the forks, and, well, things got real ugly.

 

And that's as credible as the guy "who had a '13 WR450F", don't you think?



  • vlxjim

Posted April 02, 2014 - 11:25 AM

#14

I herd that riding the WR450F was bad for the engine.  Also real damage can happen to the engine if the engine is allowed to run. It has been mentioned that if you don't allow the engine to run that no damage can occur. So it make sense that the starter is bad for the engine.

 

Wisdom to live by.






 
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