Anyone try 3 250f clutch springs for softer lever pull?


57 replies to this topic
  • Bandit9

Posted November 20, 2013 - 10:40 AM

#41

The Rekluse springs that are changed out for the purpose of adjusting the engagement point of their setups are not pressure plate springs usable in a normal clutch.
 
Install a Z-Start Pro in your WR and you'll have a pinky finger clutch pull.  Of course, you won't really ever have to pull it, but... :excuseme:


Yeah, I'm trying to avoid the Rekluse, as I don't really have an issue with the stock setup. Just trying to see what is possible without resorting to a 4 wheeler clutch.

  • grayracer513

Posted November 20, 2013 - 11:04 AM

#42

That does look interesting, but they don't really say how it works which would make it hard to justify the high price.

 

The most obvious approach is exactly what the automotive world did for so long before diaphragm pressure plate springs became popular; use an over-center spring.  Same as a kick stand. The spring will hold the lever either all the way out, or, once beyond a centering point, will instead pull the lever to the bar itself if not connected to the rest of the clutch linkage.  The amount of force that the OC spring applies to pull the lever against the bar gets subtracted from the apparent lever effort felt by the user. 



  • woods-rider

Posted November 20, 2013 - 11:10 AM

#43

The most obvious approach is exactly what the automotive world did for so long before diaphragm pressure plate springs became popular; use an over-center spring.  Same as a kick stand. The spring will hold the lever either all the way out, or, once beyond a centering point, will instead pull the lever to the bar itself if not connected to the rest of the clutch linkage.  The amount of force that the OC spring applies to pull the lever against the bar gets subtracted from the apparent lever effort felt by the user. 

 

That is a really good and simple idea that could work for both hydraulic and cable clutches and wouldn't be all that expensive to make.



  • idahojoe

Posted November 20, 2013 - 04:12 PM

#44

What if? What if you could use all 250 springs in your 450 and have more torque transfer capability than your stock 450 springs and clutch?  It's called TorqDrive from Rekluse and is comming December 2013. It's not an auto clutch either.


Edited by idahojoe, November 20, 2013 - 04:16 PM.


  • Bandit9

Posted November 20, 2013 - 04:18 PM

#45

How much $?

As long as it holds up to the 450 power, I'll try it.

Edited by Bandit9, November 20, 2013 - 04:20 PM.


  • Navaho6

Posted November 20, 2013 - 07:22 PM

#46

I can't find any info on the Rekluse product that you mentioned other than for a Harley Davidson.  I assume that the design may incorporate a new manual clutch set-up and cover that would allow you to use more clutch plates for more friction/torque, and therefore reduce the amount of spring tension needed.  This would allow for lighter springs and lighter clutch pull, I guess. 


Edited by Navaho6, November 20, 2013 - 07:24 PM.


  • Bandit9

Posted November 20, 2013 - 07:26 PM

#47

I can't find any info on the Rekluse product that you mentioned other than for a Harley Davidson.  I assume that the design may incorporate a new manual clutch set-up and cover that would allow you to use more clutch plates for more friction/torque, and therefore reduce the amount of spring tension needed.  This would allow for lighter springs and lighter clutch pull, I guess.


Sounds expensive when you say it like that.....I was hoping for just a spring swap.....

  • Navaho6

Posted November 20, 2013 - 07:38 PM

#48

Found an old product guide that had it listed for 2012 but they must have pulled it.  Do a Google search for "Rekluse TorqDrive for offroad", and a product guide should come up.  It's on page 11.  It uses thinner discs so you can put more in with the Rekluse manual clutch ($520 for the WR450).  So, maybe it needed some refinement?  Probably looking at $600.


Edited by Navaho6, November 20, 2013 - 07:43 PM.


  • Bandit9

Posted November 20, 2013 - 07:47 PM

#49

Hell, just as soon do the Core EXP for that much.

If that is the cost, then I will just stick to my 3 250F springs set up until something burns up. I was really happy with the way that worked. For just $20 too!

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  • Navaho6

Posted November 20, 2013 - 08:18 PM

#50

Might have to try that Moose Easy Pull gadget.  Read a thread on TT and a guy had one on his WR450.  Said it was the best mod he ever did.,



  • Bandit9

Posted November 21, 2013 - 04:22 AM

#51

Try it, it is your turn....

  • Navaho6

Posted November 21, 2013 - 05:25 AM

#52

I guess you changed your mind about selling the '09 or is this for the 2012 your're getting.



  • Bandit9

Posted November 21, 2013 - 05:49 AM

#53

Clutch is the same on both, so for either one.

  • Navaho6

Posted November 21, 2013 - 06:17 AM

#54

Yeah, I knew that.

  • Bandit9

Posted November 21, 2013 - 06:30 AM

#55

Probably won't mess with the 09 anymore. It is cleaned up to sell. So more than likely any future talk of mods will be for the new FI WR.

  • Krannie McKranface

Posted November 21, 2013 - 06:58 AM

#56

http://www.alibaba.c...lutch-hand.html



  • Bandit9

Posted November 21, 2013 - 07:44 AM

#57

I'll get right on it....

  • funt

Posted March 22, 2014 - 03:41 AM

#58

I got an rsc one finger lever.  It works great for me.  I've had one on my other bike for a couple years so that's what I'm used to.






 
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