I'm ready to come home...


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  • waltersobchak

Posted September 20, 2013 - 03:48 PM

#21

The WR engine, uncorked, is simply incredible. The rider has a choice of power output from about 20 HP fully corked to 50+ HP with a muffler, the GYTR tuner and an inexpensive cam swap or degreeing. That versatility makes it easy to tune for just about any riding situation.

I think the WR450F is overweight in stock form. Fortunately its pretty easy to remove 20+ pounds from the bike, mostly placed high on the bike, and it feels like a totally different bike when you do.

FYI, a stock 2014 YZ450F weighs 245 lbs with fuel and no off road equipment. Thats 235 pounds dry. I've got my 2012 WR450F down to 240 pounds dry with some off road equipment.


240 pounds is awesome! What all did you do to get it that low?

  • waltersobchak

Posted September 20, 2013 - 04:01 PM

#22

Disregard, I just found your other post

  • shrubitup

Posted September 20, 2013 - 04:17 PM

#23

Maurice, buy a 12+ WR450F. Part out your KTM. I have a 2009 YZ450F now. Nice bikes. 


Edited by shrubitup, September 21, 2013 - 09:35 AM.


  • Krannie McKranface

Posted September 20, 2013 - 04:31 PM

#24

Two  years ago, I drank  some koolaid.   Yes... it was orange, and it was good.  Very good if I must say so.  I liked it so much, I sold both my yamaha's  (wr450 and yz250).   When you riding those orange bikes and you are in the sweet spot.... OMG!     its great, really great.

 

But , my orange bike with the $3000 rebuilt KTM engine with 60 hrs took a shit...  again.  Needs about 2K worth of work to replace the intake valve, cams, followers, etc...   

 

So I say to myself....

 

 

NOT ONE MORE EFFIN NICKEL!  Not even a penny!     I won't even fix it up just to sell it.    

 

I bet the guy I sold my wr450 to would never sell it back to me.  He loves it.    So I'll be looking into the new wr450's.   I am concerned about the weight.  My 05 was a great bike, but was heavy and didn't turn or stop.   The KTM was light, turned well, and stopped on a friggin dime.   I need to see how much the new yamaha has closed the gap.

 

The scale weights are misleading I know.  So I gotta look up some real world reviews and opinions of people who ride them in the desert.

 

I've been away, but I'm ready to come home!

 

 

Been there done that.

 

My dad once told me "never buy a used European anything, unless you are an expert, or want to become and expert, cause you won't have choice, eventually"

 

Soooo true.

 

But I still bought a DKW, Bultaco, Audi, MBZ, and two KTM's.  

 

Only the MBZ was a good experience.....



  • stevethe

Posted September 20, 2013 - 04:47 PM

#25

The WR engine, uncorked, is simply incredible. The rider has a choice of power output from about 20 HP fully corked to 50+ HP with a muffler, the GYTR tuner and an inexpensive cam swap or degreeing. That versatility makes it easy to tune for just about any riding situation.I think the WR450F is overweight in stock form. Fortunately its pretty easy to remove 20+ pounds from the bike, mostly placed high on the bike, and it feels like a totally different bike when you do.FYI, a stock 2014 YZ450F weighs 245 lbs with fuel and no off road equipment. Thats 235 pounds dry. I've got my 2012 WR450F down to 240 pounds dry with some off road equipment.


Anyone have a rear wheel dyno sheet on the new one anywhere around 50 hp.

  • Just_a_trail_rider

Posted September 20, 2013 - 07:49 PM

#26

+1

 

FWIW, one of my buddies has a 2012 500 EXC, which on paper is lighter than my WR. But he himself says my bike feels lighter than his when riding. 

That is saying a lot right there.   I've thrown a leg over a 500 and it felt very light.   If the wr450 feels the same, then the weight issue may no longer be an issue.



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  • MidlifeCrisisGuy

Posted September 21, 2013 - 03:56 AM

#27

Anyone have a rear wheel dyno sheet on the new one anywhere around 50 hp.


Google YZF 450 cam and WR and see what comes up.

I'm running an FMF Powercore muffler with the quiet insert and the competition ECM and the air snorkel removed.

The power is just excellent. The power is even very good in tight woods. Very controllable and its everywhere. There are no dead spots. Its so easy to ride.

When I hop on even a big bore YZ250F, its just so sllllooooowwww.

I have the GYTR tuner but haven't used it yet. Someday I'll do the YFZ cams too.

Edited by MidlifeCrisisGuy, September 21, 2013 - 04:03 AM.


  • MidlifeCrisisGuy

Posted September 21, 2013 - 04:04 AM

#28

240 pounds is awesome! What all did you do to get it that low?


There is at least another 5 pounds to be removed before I'm done.

BTW, I'd never own a dirt bike without fuel injection again.

Edited by MidlifeCrisisGuy, September 21, 2013 - 04:05 AM.


  • Krannie McKranface

Posted September 21, 2013 - 04:09 AM

#29

Maurice, come ride my '08 WR/YZ and see what you think....

 

I've put no effort into weight savings...other than in picking the aftermarket parts wisely (all guards/skids are TM design works for example).

It does not heavy until it comes to a complete stop.

 

It also feels planted in the front, which most of the 'lighter' bikes cannot claim....and will steer the rear wheel confidently with however much power you choose to apply.....another thing the 'lighter' bikes are designed specifically not to do.

 

All this talk by KTM about 'smooth power' is just a cover up for soft power and erratic handling.

All bikes handle better with less power....


Edited by Krannie, September 21, 2013 - 04:11 AM.


  • MidlifeCrisisGuy

Posted September 21, 2013 - 05:42 AM

#30

It also feels planted in the front, which most of the 'lighter' bikes cannot claim....and will steer the rear wheel confidently with however much power you choose to apply.....another thing the 'lighter' bikes are designed specifically not to do.

I so agree with that.

  • 080

Posted September 21, 2013 - 04:13 PM

#31

 

All bikes handle better with less power....

 

Agreed. I actually ride a lot smoother with the stock pipe vs the DR D and in comparison the DR D's are one of the more "broud power" pipes out there.



  • Bandit9

Posted September 28, 2013 - 03:26 AM

#32

Well Well Well......




 
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