For starters, it feels like we have the same conversation going in several threads, which is confusing for everyone, myself included. So yes, we are way off-topic for this particular thread.
I bring up rider ability purely because you seem set on solving riding issues with bike mods (YZ cams) when it's really a rider/skill issue. Early on I asked you exactly what that mod was going to do for you, how was it going to help you go faster in the woods? You ignored the question, and it's definitely a legitimate one. You did mention something about 'holding 3rd up hills' like somehow more top end was going to help with that. Do you really, honestly think the reason you're not getting up a hill in a gear you think you should is because your bike is lacking in power?
You're a tinkerer... I get it. But how does that explain your stubborn refusal to tune your FI, one of the easiest, best and NECESSARY (if you've uncorked your bike) mods you can do. Nobody in their right mind would uncork a carb'ed bike and not rejet it and expect it to run right. FI is no different. Yet you flatly ignore everyone telling you to do that, and plow ahead with your cams thing, also steeped in denial that cams designed to increase top end also tend to decrease bottom end. Your 'theories' fly in the face of logic, common sense and the experience of many, many people ho have been there and done that already. And yet you're surprised and get all pissy when someone calls you out on it?
So no, I won't take it elsewhere, and I won't stop calling you out either.
Dude, you are so clueless it's not really even funny.
I can't keep up with my 165lb buddy on his CRF250R with my stock WR motor, cause I weight 70lbs more than him.
I out brake him, out traction him, and out climb him, but once we both get enough traction, I cannot keep up.
The stock WR is SLOW SLOW SLOW, even uncorked.
I am used to riding CRF450R's, KX450f's, and 450 SX-F's as my primary fun bike.
I can not longer kick start 25 times a day with an arthritic knee, so I chose to go all e-start with all my bikes.
Now I have the task of trying to make the e-start bikes keep up with the track bikes.
It takes a LOT of work to get a bike that is 35-50lbs heavier, down 10-15 hp, to be 'competitive'.
No, I would not race my WR, under any conditions. It's too heavy.
But racing is mostly waiting, not riding. Waiting for your moto. Waiting for you number. Waiting for the next event. Etc etc. All for a few hours a month of racing.
I choose to no longer race, I choose to ride.
Now, heres the HUGE flaw in this extremely old, extremely inaccurate argument of 'the bike is not as important as the rider'......
- NOT ONE SINGLE SX PROFESSIONAL RIDER TRYS TO MAKE HIS BIKE LESS FAST IN ORDER TO WIN, NO MATTER HOW GOOD A RIDER HE IS.
- NOT ONE SINGLE AMA DISTRICT OFF-ROAD RACER TRYS TO MAKE IT BIKE LESS FAST IN ORDER TO WIN
- NOT ONE SINGLE PLAY RIDER CANNOT BENEFIT FROM PROPERLY TUNED SUSPENSION AND MOTOR.
So, if its all the rider, why are they all wasting so much money?
I occasionally ride with guys way faster than me.
I don't mean guys that 'tire me out' or that 'ride circles around me'.
I mean guys that are GONE seconds after you start.
Can't see them, can't find them. FAST #1 plate holders in their class.
There is nothing I can do to my bike that will allow me to ride along side them.
There is also nothing I can do to my bike that would allow me TO FLY either.
No one would think there is such a thing.
SO WHY ARE YOU COMPARING TRAIL RIDERS TO PROFESSIONAL AND MAKING THEM FEEL STUPID FOR TRYING TO GET FASTER ANYWAY THEY CAN?
...it's because you have a poor self image of yourself, and can't stand to see others doing things you can't do/afford/understand, or whatever.
Keep it to yourself and curb the hate.