Off timing? (see picture)


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  • peter10

Posted May 05, 2013 - 03:45 AM

#1

the engine sometimes very hard to turn over,no Auto Decompression,and feels locked up after stalling.

When the engine cold everzthing gettingbackto normal until the engine warm up and stalls again.

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  • Not2old2fly

Posted May 05, 2013 - 04:36 AM

#2

Assuming the crank is right on tdc I'd say you are off a tooth.

  • peter10

Posted May 05, 2013 - 04:43 AM

#3

Assuming the crank is right on tdc I'd say you are off a tooth.


on the intake cam or ex cam?

  • Not2old2fly

Posted May 05, 2013 - 04:44 AM

#4

Looks like both to me. I could be wrong but it looks that way

  • peter10

Posted May 05, 2013 - 04:46 AM

#5

Looks like both to me. I could be wrong but it looks that way


but if is timing off itshouldnt start at all.it starts when cold and stalls when hot :/

  • Not2old2fly

Posted May 05, 2013 - 04:53 AM

#6

Looks like both to me. I could be wrong but it looks that way

  • Not2old2fly

Posted May 05, 2013 - 04:57 AM

#7

This would explain the hard starting but not the stalling issue. Just so we are on the same page.

  • peter10

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:17 AM

#8

This would explain the hard starting but not the stalling issue. Just so we are on the same page.


Its only hard to start when hot.When the engine cold it turns over normal.

  • Not2old2fly

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:19 AM

#9

Ok well your timing won't change when hot or cold. Up until this happened did it run good without any of these issues?

  • Not2old2fly

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:24 AM

#10

What I'm getting at is I think you have another problem. I'm thinking its the piston seizing when it gets warm. Just my opinion.

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  • peter10

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:27 AM

#11

Ok well your timing won't change when hot or cold. Up until this happened did it run good without any of these issues?


It was running fine before until i changed the oil.After 20minutes hard ride the bike is stalls.Tried to kick start but the engine wont turn over,however after 3minutess the engine started again and ride again for 2minutes and it stalls again,but soon as the engine cold the bike running fine until the engine warmup, and everything starts again.i just dont know wthat to do. im on low budget right now, cant take it to shop at the moment. :(

  • Not2old2fly

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:31 AM

#12

Not trying to insult your abilities but you didn't put the oil filter in backwards did you?

  • etuke

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:31 AM

#13

there is a thread in the common threads at top of the page (stickies) that talks about no auto decomp sometimes.

  • peter10

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:34 AM

#14

Not trying to insult your abilities but you didn't put the oil filter in backwards did you?


unbolted the oil gallery bolt and checked for oil perssure and it was right,however the oi filter can go only oneway in.

  • Not2old2fly

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:35 AM

#15

Ok just checking lol

  • grayracer513

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:37 AM

#16

You guys had better take another look at the exhaust cam. It's 180 degrees backward.

  • peter10

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:38 AM

#17

You guys had better take another look at the exhaust cam. It's 180 degrees backward.


It was running perfectly before this issue.

  • grayracer513

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:42 AM

#18

Doesn't change anything, the exhaust cam is completely flipped over. The intake cam uses the "I" mark to line up with the rear of the head, and the exhaust cam uses the "E" mark at the front of the head. Cam's out of time as far as it can get.

  • peter10

Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:48 AM

#19

This is how it supposed to be?

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  • jojo1224

Posted May 05, 2013 - 06:22 AM

#20

Just had to turn the engine over one revolution, you were checking the cams on the wrong stroke.





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