Lithium Battery Users - Which one to use


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  • mslow

Posted April 08, 2013 - 06:21 AM

#1

My battery needs to be replaced and I'm leaning heavily towards a Lithium Battery.
I like the Shorai, and I know there are a few others out there like AntiGravity & Ballistic.

Shorai Battery - $159.95: LFX14L2-BS12 with 210 CCA and 1.46 lbs, 4.45"L x 2.28"W x 3.5"H

AntiGravity - $119.99 : YTZ7 4 Cell with 120 CCA and 1 lb, 4.5"L x 2.75"W x 4.12"H
$179.99 : YTZ7 8 Cell with 240 CCA and 1.8 lbs, 4.5"L x 2.75"W x 4.12"H

Ballistic - $169.95 : 8 Cell 100-011 with 275 CCA and 1.7 lbs, 4.5"L x 2.5"W x 4.25"H

For those using one of these or similar, which would be the best option for a 2005 wr450 dual sported, so it would be powering heated grips in the winter and a hard wired GPS most rides. Headlight and tail light are on a switch for reduced starting load.

  • Chas_M

Posted April 08, 2013 - 06:31 AM

#2

Do yourself a favor and get the TurnTech 5Ah battery. It is equivalent to the Shorai LFX14L2 but works better, lasts longer and is less expensive.

  • stevethe

Posted April 08, 2013 - 08:02 AM

#3

I've used a few of them. I think most important is to get the 8 cell.

  • Just_a_trail_rider

Posted April 08, 2013 - 09:54 AM

#4

I had an 05 wr450 for years. Almost any battery will work on this bike, including the stock one. But the Shorai is the one I used. Just be careful to put in the pads so it doesn't bounce around. Its quite a bit smaller than the stock battery, but with more cranking power.

The wr's crank and kick over so easy that the power of a lithium battery is wasted on this bike. The stock ytz7s should last you for years.

Regarding your accessories, you really need to worry about the stator to make sure it has the power to run the other stuff. The battery will drain if you have too big of a draw. I had a 100w DC stator installed on mine. But it forced me to upgrade my headlight to HID (cheap, easy, and better). The heated grips will take some power to run. The GPS will take little or no power to run.

  • n16ht5

Posted April 08, 2013 - 12:06 PM

#5

I have a shorai and it is much better than the ballistic.. wish I would have known about turntech..

  • mslow

Posted April 08, 2013 - 01:19 PM

#6

Haven't heard of the turn tech until now, seems they are out of stock though and I need to pull the trigger quick....I'm too damn short to kick start it on the trail...
I'll email him though and see when they'll have them in stock again.


  • upnorthbacon

Posted April 08, 2013 - 02:40 PM

#7

Do you think the weight difference would be noticable with a lithium battery and lighter weight exhaust? Sorry to hijak.

  • beezer

Posted April 09, 2013 - 05:48 AM

#8

I had a turntech and it crapped out.

I use the Shorai on a few bikes with no problems.

  • nevada

Posted April 09, 2013 - 05:57 AM

#9

Do you think the weight difference would be noticable with a lithium battery and lighter weight exhaust? Sorry to hijak.

ive been considering this same thing. i figure you could shave an easy 5lbs, if not more. by changing both. and the weight would be coming from up high.

  • Chas_M

Posted April 09, 2013 - 06:57 AM

#10

I have had two Shorai batteries crap out both within a relatively short period of time. The first was a LFX18 series in my '10 KTM 990 SMT which Shorai replaced with no questions asked. The second was a LFX14 series in my '09 Beta 565 RS. I didn't even bother replacing with another Shorai but went with the TurnTech 5AH which E-starts better than the Shorai ever did. The TurnTech battery in my '08 KTM HTR 350 XCF-W is still going strong after 5 years of use.

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  • Bryan Bosch

Posted April 09, 2013 - 07:09 AM

#11

I run the Super B
http://www.super-b.c...s/sb12v2600p-ac
It's way lighter than the stock lead acid, but when riding, I'd be hard pressed to "feel" it. But, it's been through 2 Denver winters, 2 Vegas summers and it's never been charged. So far, bullet proof.

  • mslow

Posted April 09, 2013 - 07:15 AM

#12

i read a bunch on the Turntech last night, I think I'm sold on it, thanks for the heads up on it.
now just gotta wait until they are in stock.

  • Just_a_trail_rider

Posted April 09, 2013 - 07:49 AM

#13

Do you think the weight difference would be noticable with a lithium battery and lighter weight exhaust? Sorry to hijak.


On a 2005 wr450, you will not notice the weight difference. That bike is too heavy. But generally speaking, lighter weight is better...

  • Mtn-Track

Posted April 09, 2013 - 08:25 AM

#14

I've had the EarthX for a couple of years and still love how well it lights-off my bike with the e-start.

http://earthxmotorsports.com/


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  • Bryan Bosch

Posted April 09, 2013 - 09:23 AM

#15

On a 2005 wr450, you will not notice the weight difference. That bike is too heavy. But generally speaking, lighter weight is better...


I'm not convinced that you'd "feel it" on any full sized bike unless you're Taddy Blazuziak. But you're right, lighter is better and the lack of maintenance and longevity are plenty enough value to ditch the lead acid IMHO.

  • whatsitmatter

Posted April 09, 2013 - 10:21 AM

#16

bah these bikes are plenty light for the power. people who think these bikes are heavy grew up on motocross 2 smokers or something... I weigh 145 and ride this bike fine.. After a day of trail riding - am i sweating? Yah - but that's the way it should be!

i do agree, if you can, these bikes are easy to kick over. my 2004 starts on first kick nearly every time, love it!

i've had no issues with the Shorai Battery either :thumbsup:

  • JDLowrance

Posted April 09, 2013 - 11:12 AM

#17

Do you guys running these LiFe batteries use battery tenders?

Either constantly or just when you leave bike for a month or two.

  • beezer

Posted April 09, 2013 - 11:35 AM

#18

I don't use a trickle charger with the lithium batteries. They don't seem to need it.

With a lead battery if you don't use a trickle charger the battery dies.

  • hawaiidirtrider

Posted April 09, 2013 - 03:07 PM

#19

I don't use a trickle charger with the lithium batteries. They don't seem to need it.

With a lead battery if you don't use a trickle charger the battery dies.


Make sure you use the trickle charger made for the lithium otherwise you'll just kill your lithium battery.

  • beezer

Posted April 10, 2013 - 05:58 AM

#20

I use a trickle charger on lithium batteries all the time.

I have never had a problem.




 
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