DR650 vs. DRZ400


66 replies to this topic
  • EvanNaculum

Posted January 30, 2013 - 01:36 PM

#1

i took my girlfriends 2012 dr650 to work to today and i dont get why suzuki even makes this bike. its clunky, heavy, and doesnt seem to have any more power then my DRZ. i will say its nice on the highway, much bigger gear ratios then the DRZ...i didnt shift into 5th gear until i was going 80mph. but that being said, the windsheer makes it so that you dont want to go much faster then 80. i looked up the specs on it and its 37hp stock, weighing in at 370lbs, my drz might be making a bit more horsepower and its feels 100lbs lighter. the drz is much more flickable and zippy. also i kinda like the smaller gear ratios on the drz, it feels much more like a dirtbike and i can not even imagine taking her dr650 off road. just felt like sharing my opinions...

  • Radtech

Posted January 30, 2013 - 02:08 PM

#2

I would agree that the DR650 is a big tank... It would be interesting to see the sales numbers for these 2 bikes over the past 10 years by continent. I'm sure that they have both been good products for Suzuki...

  • Monk

Posted January 30, 2013 - 02:10 PM

#3

But can you get a 780cc kit for your DRZ? lol

  • 150ron

Posted January 30, 2013 - 02:13 PM

#4

I just sat on a brand new 2012 model, yeah, tis a fatty for sure, lol

The seat seems lower and more comfy compared to the drz tho, other then that, i would have to be high to take a dr650 on some of the trails i go with my drz.

  • bon3krusher

Posted January 30, 2013 - 02:29 PM

#5

Just a slightly different niche.

More freeway/long commute then take the 650
More dirt/mud/fun then take the DRZ :ride:

  • Epicsoldier

Posted January 30, 2013 - 02:33 PM

#6

Just a slightly different niche.

More freeway/long commute then take the 650
More dirt/mud/fun then take the DRZ :ride:


:thumbsup: yep, DR works well as a dual sport with light off road duties. My father rides a 650 offroad when I'm on my DRZ, it's entertaining for me to watch but he makes it through all the same stuff I do, just slower and you have to fight the bike more :ride:

  • EvanNaculum

Posted January 30, 2013 - 06:16 PM

#7

But can you get a 780cc kit for your DRZ? lol

True haha, and my girls bike has stock sprockets, I want her to change her gearing...I'll bet with like 14/44 sprockets the bike would do wheelies and still be comfy at 70mph on the highway

  • Romie

Posted January 30, 2013 - 06:25 PM

#8

it's weird when the xr650 makes 61hp yet the dr650 makes 37, what were they thinking.

  • Epicsoldier

Posted January 30, 2013 - 06:31 PM

#9

it's weird when the xr650 makes 61hp yet the dr650 makes 37, what were they thinking.


uhhh the XR650R (offroad only) makes about 45-50hp (The R model is no longer made over here, it hasn't been for awhile) and the XR650L (street and trail model) only makes about 35-40hp.

I don't know where you seen the 61 number at unless it's heavily modded it won't be making those numbers.

EDIT: unless you're talking crank hp numbers, which is useless :)

Edited by Epicsoldier, January 30, 2013 - 06:35 PM.


  • drjoe

Posted January 30, 2013 - 07:18 PM

#10

Dual sport is all about compromise. Depends where and how you want to ride, how much you like to work on the bikes and how much money you got to spend. I have owned both bikes and I know alot of guys that really like the DR. The stock DR is a tank, but if you are willing to put some time and money into it (starting with suspension, carb and exhaust), it is a totally different bike. Of course there are those that would ask why you would ever want to sink a bunch of money into a DR, but lots of guys do it. If you are a bigger guy and want to haul alot of gear on longer trips over varied terrain, I would take it over the DRZ. If you like to ride mostly off-road, take the DRZ. In my experience, you can ride the DR off-road (within reason) if it is set up properly, but the DRZ is just more fun.

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  • Romie

Posted January 30, 2013 - 08:20 PM

#11

uhhh the XR650R (offroad only) makes about 45-50hp (The R model is no longer made over here, it hasn't been for awhile) and the XR650L (street and trail model) only makes about 35-40hp.

I don't know where you seen the 61 number at unless it's heavily modded it won't be making those numbers.

EDIT: unless you're talking crank hp numbers, which is useless :)

Just going from specs I found online but that was for the R model at the crank.

  • Craig-o

Posted January 31, 2013 - 01:26 AM

#12

Different engine technology is used with each of these bikes..SOCH v's DOHC, compression ratios, air v's water cooling , bore/stroke ratios,,, :blah:

  • DrzDick

Posted January 31, 2013 - 01:43 AM

#13

I guess the DR650 is a stronger platform - I suspect the chassis can take more luggage load before you have to start getting creative.
Also the DR650 should make more power low down, it's also a more simple engine (air/oil cooled) so should be less vulnerable in a fall.
Personally I'd take my DRZ but each to their own.

  • NEKOOHC

Posted January 31, 2013 - 02:58 AM

#14

Yeah , the DR is big / heavy ... But , if you work the motor and mod the suspension they are greatly improved .

You can make them rip !!

  • cman60

Posted January 31, 2013 - 06:09 AM

#15

We have both. Good bikes for what each is intended for. I have gone everywhere I wanted on the big dually, just not quite as gracefully. LOL. BUt fot the Adenture type riding we seem to have in abundance here in Missouri, the 650 fits the bill.

  • ROMAD

Posted January 31, 2013 - 08:14 AM

#16

I own and love both! Once you put an FCR carb on and a decent exhaust on the DR650 its a much more fun bike to ride (just like the DRZ). A 14 tooth CSS helps wake things up as well. I wouldnt call it flickable but converting the rear wheel to an 18" with the right tire will raise the rear end up about 1/2" and that makes the handling a little faster.

Its a different bike for a different purpose - its a lot more vibration dampened and much smoother at freeway speeds (rubber mounted bars, pegs, exhaust). Its got a far stronger tail section (welded frame vs. bolt on extention). The factory suspension on the DR650 really needs help but a set of emulators and correct springs make a big difference.

My DRZ is my more dirt / technical off road bike and does pavement in small stretches to get to the dirt and my DR650 is my more road focused adventure bike that is more 50/50 than the DRZ. I love them both!

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Edited by ROMAD, January 31, 2013 - 08:30 AM.


  • ohgood

Posted January 31, 2013 - 09:19 AM

#17

I own and love both! Once you put an FCR carb on and a decent exhaust on the DR650 its a much more fun bike to ride (just like the DRZ). A 14 tooth CSS helps wake things up as well. I wouldnt call it flickable but converting the rear wheel to an 18" with the right tire will raise the rear end up about 1/2" and that makes the handling a little faster.

Its a different bike for a different purpose - its a lot more vibration dampened and much smoother at freeway speeds (rubber mounted bars, pegs, exhaust). Its got a far stronger tail section (welded frame vs. bolt on extention). The factory suspension on the DR650 really needs help but a set of emulators and correct springs make a big difference.

My DRZ is my more dirt / technical off road bike and does pavement in small stretches to get to the dirt and my DR650 is my more road focused adventure bike that is more 50/50 than the DRZ. I love them both!

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would you mind linking me to how you installed the blade fork covers please ? (drz)

i have some yeller sm covers i might put on my s, more visibility and all :)

  • ROMAD

Posted January 31, 2013 - 10:34 AM

#18

Those arent SM fork guards, they are KTM fork guards and they only come in black

http://www.thumperta...0-s-or-e-model/

  • e_scourboutis

Posted January 31, 2013 - 10:41 AM

#19

I would expect that if the DRZ may be considered bulletproof, then the DR may be considered bombproof...

Other than that the DR650 is the most recent and technologically advanced japanese aircooled big single.

Edited by e_scourboutis, January 31, 2013 - 11:03 AM.


  • 150ron

Posted January 31, 2013 - 10:42 AM

#20

Anybody here with a DR650 test out top speed with stock gearing?





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