[Whyzee429]

Apparently this bike could run off any liquid containing water! They poured Monster Energy into the glass gas tank. NO GAS. I guess it was capable of hitting 200hp with it's turbo setup. I don't quite understand how this hydrogen powered bike works. Can anyone explain this?:bonk:

[Crf250r121]

Barring any chance that it was yet another scam,The premise behind a hydrogen powered vehicle is as follows.I may make a few mistakes along the way but I can at least point you in the right direction.Water undergoes an event called "Electrolysis" which seperates the hydrogen into a gas.The hydrogen gas is than passed through a pressurised fuel rail similar to a modern EFI system and "Sprayed" into the cylinder.Air flows through the manifold as it would in any other internal combustion engine and is mixed in the cylinder with the hydrogen.The mixture is than ignited by the sparkplug and in turn gives similar results to a gas powered engine.I may have made some mistakes in my explanation and im sure someone with more knowledge of it than me will correct it. I saw a really cool episode of mythbusters where they took a tank of hydrogen and sprayed it right into the carb of an older car.It started and actually ran although it sounded like the timing needed to be adjusted in order to compensate for a differrent octane and rate of burn with hydrogen.I think the main problem they have is that it takes more electricity to perform the "Electrolysis" than the car can output so it in effect takes more energy in than it puts out.My thoughts are that with the right infrastructure hydrogen could be a feasible alternative to fossil fuels but even at a 1.50 a litre gas is still a cheaper solution.Also,Even if we were to completely solve the world's need for fossil fuel driven transportation,We would still need some other alternative to make plastics,electronics,chemicals etc... Just some food for thought.

[Whyzee429]

what's next? A Flux Capacitor? Seriously though, it was a trip. Their explanation on the show (Aired on CMT) went right over my head. Granted, I'm dealing with a freshly fractured wrist so the vicodin was kicking in around this time. I'm sure my altered state of mind didn't help me to comprehend what they were saying. haha. Whatever device they had on this chopper was able to separate the water from the Monster. I'm pretty sure the bike was almost emission free

[shoulder]

i have seen with my own 2 eyes a hydro/asst. vechicle!!! It was a Chevy Colorado or what ever they are! Anyways it took it from like 23-24mpg to 45-50mpg!!!! Thats on the hwy! not around town!

[Stormatzio]

First of all I have a Ph.D. and work for a company that conducts studies looking into alternative fuels. I've looked at battery technology, fuel cells, alternative fuels (natural gas, propane, plug in etc). I caught the last 5 minutes of the show last night and was wondering what was going on. I didn't see the whole thing so I can't comment entirely. Vehicles do run off of hydrogen. The big challenge is the storage, conversion, or flow from the hydrogen source. Hydrogen in it's gas state is pretty useless (not enough storage capacity unless you pressurize it (Who wants a highly flammable, pressurized tank of fuel on a motorcycle say "YEAH" ). You wouldn't get around the block on a tank of low pressure gaseous hydrogen. So then you are into liquid hydrogen storage under pressure. This is what they are doing currently and what most studies are into, how to do this safely by either using metals that absorb hydrogen (i.e. platinum) or different storage vessel configurations that won't go boom and blow up your whole neighborhood sending the local 7 eleven sky high. So this leads me to electrolysis. You cannot make enough hydrogen locally (meaning on the vehicle) to power the vehicle. It takes more energy for electrolysis and hydrogen capture then you get from hydrogen power. In addition, electrolysis splits the molecule. Hydrogen / Water and it's by product. So before you can do electrolysis you need distilled water, not monster energy drink. I'll try this experiment at work today and report back. I'll fill up a beaker with monster, pump some voltage into it (Should bubble with 1.8V) and measure if I get any hydrogen off of it. Well call it Thumperbusters.

In conclusion, I work pretty close on this topic, read the published literature, attend scientific conferences on the topic and have never seen or heard of a locally producing hydrogen fuel engine at the breadboard level (Scientific term pile of parts on a table) let alone a functioning prototype. If this is true, I have to get better at my job.

[shoulder]

The people that I know that is doing this has done alot of research on hydrogen asst. I didn't belive it at first until i seen it! Ive seen how they are making the cells where the water is being kept and it really a neat setup! your right about the pressure...I agree I don't believe the Monster energy deal i would have to see it! Hydrogen burns hotter that gas <the sun is mostly hydrogen> I think anyway!

[howard-the-clown]

It changed my life.

[Whyzee429]

I'd have to try to find that show again. It was quite mind-boggling. I'm almost positive they filled the clear glass gas tank with monster. Someone had to see this show!