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redracer21
01-09-2003, 09:14 AM
I just put a D.I.D. x-ring chain on. What chain lube is everyone using?
I have been trying different lubes but have not found one that doesn't sling off on my boot, fender, motor, and frame.
I have heard of just using wd-40 on o-ring chains. Is that what everyone else does or do yall have a non-flinging lube?
Thanks.
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LowCo
01-09-2003, 09:32 AM
Willie D. 40 here :D
Use it often, like when you pit for gas, before and after washing, before the first ride of the day. That gummy lube can cause more damage by collecting dirt an mud that wear out the o-rings. Most of the excess WD drips off before you ride, and what does get flung off wipes off easily.
Randy
ardfarkl
01-09-2003, 11:19 AM
The only thing about WD 40 is that it is not a lubricant at all. The name literally says it ass. It was there 40th try at a water displacer. Water Displacer #40. Great for after a wash most definately, but not a lube.
OLDMX4
01-09-2003, 12:04 PM
For O-ring chains I always use WD-40.
Never had a chain failure and my last chain lasted 2 seasons!
2001-Bought a DID 520VM for my CR250 (full season of racing)
2002-Put the same chain on the CRF450 (full season of racing)
Plus the WD-40 keeps everything looking new! :cool:
bates68_03CRF
01-09-2003, 12:26 PM
anybody ever heard of Zep? I have a buddy that says this is what mechanics use to lube chains etc and swears by it. :)
JoeyM
01-09-2003, 12:42 PM
I use MFR chain lube. It works great and never flys off. It is complelty clear and is a dry lube. After the first ten minutes your chian will be dry but still well lubricated. It is great for standard, o and x ring chains. I have used it for over a year and it has been the best.
NorCalRider
01-09-2003, 12:44 PM
I have tried pretty much all the chain lubes. So far, the only one that doesn't fling off is Bel Ray Super Clean. All the other brands flung off on my pants, boots, and inside of back fender. The Super Clean will not fling off if you follow the directions on the back of the can. Apply the lube to a WARM chain and WAIT until 10-15 minutes for it to set up. I have never had a problem.
jbobb
01-10-2003, 03:17 AM
I like the Bell Ray Superclean as well. WD40 is a water displacer and a mild solvent (breaks down oil and grease). It has almost no lubricating properties.
crf450#73
01-10-2003, 04:31 AM
I run Amsoil HDMP. Doesnt fling off and doest collect dirt and grime. http://www.amsoil.com/products/amh.html
www.competionoils.com (http://www.competionoils.com)
03thumper
01-10-2003, 05:00 AM
i use maxima chain wax.no build up easy clean up. :D
therapture
01-10-2003, 05:22 AM
I stumbled upon a product made by Winzer, which is a company that supplies all kinds of hardware and specialty chemicals to automotive and industrial business. It is a heavy duty synthetic lubricant that also contains Teflon Gel, is completely clear and non-staining, and so far is working fine. It is "ultra sticky" too and smells kind of like a hot crayola... :) The name of the product is "Winzer Poly-Lube". It originally is made for industrial chain and sprocket applications, but a chains are chains and teeth are teeth so...
If anyone is interested I can get you some contact information, or I could even sell you a can at my cost plus a buck or two freight if you want to try it...
BTW-I work at a Toyota dealership....
mxraceraz
01-10-2003, 05:22 AM
Maxima chain wax.
scott39
01-10-2003, 10:10 AM
WD 40 only after I wash my bikes to displace H2O,then I use Maxima chain wax.
huffa
01-10-2003, 03:10 PM
Belray super clean is great. Belray with "molyphos additive" IS TERRIBLE! It turns into little dirt gum balls and is absolutly the worst to get off your bike. Your better off not using it at all! That's how much I hate the stuff. I ordered it by mistake one time since they look the same if you really don't look close.
I can't understand how they can make one so crappy and the other I highly recommend? Come to think of it why even make the other? Maybe it's just strickly for street bikes that don't get dirt on them but even then it gets all black and gooie all over the sprockets and swingarm.
stucknbaja
01-10-2003, 04:07 PM
I have always used WD-40 on my o-ring chains, after it was recommended to me for this use (I've used it forever for other stuff). True it's not a lubricant, but O-ring chains have lubricant sealed inside the O-ring. The WD-40 keeps the chain from corroding. I've been using it on my DID x-ring chain on my XR600 for over two years with no problems, and am using it on my CRF as well.
The only problem I've ever heard of using WD-40 on O-ring chains is that some brands O-rings won't stand up to constant WD-40 use.
huffa
01-10-2003, 04:21 PM
All you guy's using the wd 40. I understand it protects the chain but the chain and sprocket is metal to metal contact by way of the rollers. O ring or not the roller's need lube on the outside of them to provide a cushion in between them and the sprocket just as all the moving parts in your motor need a cushion. This is why I only use wd for after washing and not as a lube.
brockr1
01-10-2003, 04:59 PM
Sound crazy to everyone I tell butt I don't run anything. All the lube you need for a o-ring chain is inside the o-rings, unless you live in a wet climate I don't see a need to lube. the lube is just to stop corrosion, anything else just adds dirt to the o-ring to hold it there and grind it into the o-ring. Here in N. Nevada I only use WD-40 in the winter when its likly to get wet.
Hoffy
01-10-2003, 05:51 PM
Sounds good, probably shouldnt lube the swing arm bearings or steering head because theres no metal to metal contact there either!
The Orings are for "INSIDE" the chain. The rollers are metal and still make contact with the metal sprocket teeth, which in turn causes friction, which causes heat, which causes WEAR!!!! Which chains do you buy, cause I am going to buy stock in them! :)
450CONGO
01-10-2003, 06:12 PM
RedRacer21:
I use BelRay super clean after the WD-40 used after washing has dried. It not only coats/protects/lubes the chain, but it stays on. Costs about $7 a can....See you at Kentwood!
brockr1
01-10-2003, 11:05 PM
Swing arm and steering head bearings are sealed. if you run a lube on the chain it is exposed to dirt and dust with a tacky, sticky oil based lube, right? dirt and dust stick to oil! i don't know what lube you can run thet will stay on the rollers and sprockets and not collect dirt on the o-rings. if you put dirt on the o-ring (stuck to it ) it will work it's way inside. I run a Regina gold and get atleast a year on it!!! so buy stock in Regina.
huffa
01-11-2003, 03:00 AM
Quote from Brockr1: "If you run a lube on the chain it is exposed to dirt and dust with a tacky, sticky oil based lube, right? dirt and dust stick to oil!"
Not so with the belray super clean. Dirt does NOT stick to it yet somehow it stays on the chain. After a long moto some of the lube will come off and you must lube again but a good majority of it stays on.
I'd rather have to keep re-lubing then have the tacky stuff as you state and have dirt and greasy crude all over the place.
Another good lube is the Honda stuff. It goes on invisable. Can't tell at all that you have it on. That's the only problem, it's so clean you not sure how much is still on after motoing. The belray you can tell at a glance.
Burnrider
01-11-2003, 07:09 AM
Same as Huffa. WD at the carwash and Bel-ray for a lube. You will know what you want to use after the first chain. If it lasts more than a year, has no kinks or rust and the bike rolls freely after it has been cleaned and dried.
the masterlink ctually needs some replacement compared to the chain itself. Maxima is good. And yes I've got friends that swear WD40 is the only chain lube you need according to chain manufacturers. What kind of oil do you use?
RIDING_ROB
01-11-2003, 08:07 AM
TRY A GUN BORE WAX. IT SEEMS TO LAST LONGER THAN CHAIN WAX.
Sorry for the caps. I for got they were on.
stucknbaja
01-11-2003, 03:21 PM
I know it would seem that you need some sort of lube between the chain and sprocket, but I wonder how much good chain lube sprayed on at the start of a ride actually does in this cae. I've used pretty much nothin' but WD-40 and have seen no noticable wear on sprockets or my chains (DID x-ring), and have had the same chain on my 600R for over two years now.
SAWDADDY
01-11-2003, 05:09 PM
I run an O-ring chain, and use WD-40 after washing it, then Honda general-purpose lube before I ride. After the chain is warmed up from the first practice run, I spray it down with Honda chain wax.
I'm pretty sure that aliens will come down and get me, or something, if I don't follow my little ritual. Or maybe it's ninjas that drop out of the ceiling...I forget.
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