[trackman]

LOL hence the addition the "drivers' license" number on the district app about 10 years ago. and for kids the "birth certificate', niether items AMA use to figure this out, but they will take your 39.00 every kind of name you can think of. Hell a guy in Indiania changed his name LEGALLY! Then went back to C class from A, we took a year to get that fixed.

Baggers do have one thing in common, they don't last in the sport long, since they want it EASY. So it's an ongoing problem with different riders trying the same old tricks thinking they are the first to do it.

:P yep anymore it's kinda funny, I always ask why do you want to be the fastest slow guy......hell I will be an A rider til i DIE and fight like hell if they try to take it away. Once A always A. :)

[Baessler32]

I used to race a guy in 250C that literally won it 4 or 5 times. His name was Jeremy something, I can't remember what. Every race he'd show up to he would win, but he wouldn't show up for all of them so it was hard to bitch about. For a guy like me who was just starting racing and actually trying to chase points at Mendota, it was infuriating :foul:

Your talking about Jeremy Mariner. #21 on a honda cr 250.

[Matt228]

Yep, that name sounds right. Seemed like a nice guy, but it was like man, move up to B!

[Baessler32]

Jeremy got me into all the local bars far b4 i was legal. He knew how to party!!:busted: He now works for Spy optics out in CA. and he's still sand baggin C class..:thumbsup:

[pimpnutts]

Sand baggers are in it for the big win, maybe they feel like bubba or ricky if they smoke everyone else, trackman should advance the 2 suzuki riders that were killing B class. I remember Charles Harpe woopin B class afew years ago no he doesn't look so fast:applause:

[BG31]

Riding B until one is up to speed is one thing.(as long as you dont win every race by a long shot)

I'm mainly talking about the sissies who have to figure out a way to continue to race a lower class so they can win. The funny part is hearing some of their own justification.....I haven't ridden in 3 months....I blew out my knee....I'm borrowing some guys bike....I'll move up after my next win...I'll move up when they (district) bump me up....I've never been to this track....I've been sick all week....I want to just ride safe today....I got smoked in that class last time...balh blah blah and full of chit...

For those who want to bag, you have 9 excuses above.....

[JohnnyOfast]

We know.

Know what? did i miss something? is it about 2012? :confused: :nz:

[titanium_arm_guy]

Riding B until one is up to speed is one thing.(as long as you dont win every race by a long shot)

I'm mainly talking about the sissies who have to figure out a way to continue to race a lower class so they can win. The funny part is hearing some of their own justification.....I haven't ridden in 3 months....I blew out my knee....I'm borrowing some guys bike....I'll move up after my next win...I'll move up when they (district) bump me up....I've never been to this track....I've been sick all week....I want to just ride safe today....I got smoked in that class last time...balh blah blah and full of chit...

For those who want to bag, you have 9 excuses above.....

how about my flying pig sucked all my headlight fluid and ate my torque regulator, so I can't compete at the top of my game? that I've been constipated this week

[El Marko]

There are sandbaggers and then there are ex-pros who come back and race amateur races. I was at Red Bud 2 weeks ago for the Vet Race and had my ass handed to me by Denny Schwartz (ex Team Maico and Team Honda) and Tim Miller (ex-everything and a pro since age 15) in the +50 class.

There were 3 or 4 other former AMA pro riders in the class as well. Shouldn't these guys be off playing golf and wearing ugly clothes so the rest of us have a faint hope in hell of doing well?

[trackman]

LOL I have had some great races with Tim, he has some serious speed when he wants it. He also is in some serious shape to, that boy don't do dunkin donuts !

I didn't realize he was an expro though? We pitted together last time I was at byron. Pretty good guy.

[El Marko]

Well Tim was a sponsored rider back when he was 15 and also raced snowmobiles plus I'm not sure what all else. He was the fourth part of the epic Skrudland/Wallenberg/Welzien battles back in the 70s in District 16 and 17. Tim has always had serious speed on tap.

[BG31]

"how about my flying pig sucked all my headlight fluid and ate my torque regulator, so I can't compete at the top of my game? that I've been constipated this week"


Hey titanium arm guy, I think I heard that exact baggin excuse last weekend.(above) So I guess they aren't all "canned" excuses.....

By the way, I believed him....

[trackman]

I hurt myself, and I am no longer fast.
I am old and haven't rode in at least 3 months, no longer competitive.
I have an old bike and can't compete with the new ones.
I want to go to LL and am no competitive in my class.
I really don't want to "push" it, so in order to ride "safe" I will race at 80%.
I got beat by a B or C guy last week and if he can ride that class, then i should be able to.
I only ride a few tracks and am not fast on the other ones, that I don't go to.
I got a new bike, and should not have to ride it in that classification since i was moved on a 125/250. So i am not as fast on the bigger bike.
YOu scored me wrong, and I don't have that average. Because I got two dnf's at the last two race which I KNOW brings down my average.
HEY you can't combine, 125 B scores, and 250 B scores, I only raced 5 races in each class that minimum is 6. (today I can't but we used to).
HEY you "Can't" advance me in the 25+ class since it's a "combined class and I ride with A riders, so my average can't be right.
I am 16 and you can't move me, my dad said.
My mom called last week and you said I had to move to B, but I dnf'ed this week so now you can't. (dnf's don't count)
I will come to your track and race the whole series with all my friends, if you don't move me.
How much will it cost me to keep the kid in B, you are going to ruin his life.
He can't compete with those fast guys, he is still a kid.
I going to AMA and you won't be doing this no more.
I called AMA and your not allowed to move my son.
AMA will be notified about your conduct.

YOu plain suck and you don't have the right.


anyway, thats just ones i can remember in the last few minutes.

I am sure there are more. THe more ingenious ones I still remember the dads' and riders and situation. Two in particular........One was a yelling match in front of 30-50 spectators at Walnut. ANd the other was a phone call which today that rider is tuff to beat around here now in A.

:)

[BG31]

Great reply...you if anyone, have probably heard it all. Some of those are priceless....ha

oh yeah, if you move me up to A next year (my current avg is around 15) I'll complain to the President of the United States and you'll be moved to MX District 3,489. (located in Zimbabwe)

[Vomitlastnight]

Trackman is absolutely insane

This guy has seen it all and been around longer than anyone. Keep it up Gerhard!

[trackman]

Hey if it works like it is supposed to, AMA is moving the riders, my roll in this is reduced alot! By the way it won't be missed!!! LOL>!

[BG31]

It will be interesting to see if Loretta Lynns will still have the +30B class....I mean the 30 A class in sheeps clothing......Kevin Cozadd....

[trackman]

That was an absolute joke. Cozadd came in front of our panel the first time and we soundly refused his request. Evidently he knows someone and or they know him, hence another appeal and they let him go B. I don't like seeing anyone get hurt, but with little competition in the field, he went down and did get hurt i guess. Sometimes things are just meant to be or not to B?

does this mean he stay a B rider for next season???? Hmmm.

[BG31]

It will be interesting to see if the 30B class will even continue to be recognized given the controversies and lack of policing. Talk about baggin'....I bet there were just as many A guys in that class than in the other B clases. If anyone gets bored one day, look at the rider list in 30B and do a search on riders and you'll see that many rode 30A the year prior, even when 30B classes were available. The worst part, many real 30B guys called them out, but, they(MX Sports) could care less. One of the zits in this awesome sport.

[pimpnutts]

I think some one from midwest racing.com must be on TT because they just exposed a sandbagger check out allen freedrich in 250C :naughty:

[BG31]

When I go to mx race space.com and click Nationwide amateur results / ranking he comes up as racing B in 2006. Based on the crash photo, he prbably belongs in C....ha, is that you pimpnutts? Vomit says it is

[trackman]

LOL he may be in the B class, hell who knows we will see once results are posted. B and C raced together yesterday.

[BG31]

Any other sandbagger sightings this weekend?

[titanium_arm_guy]

damn dude you're like a sandbagger vigilante. I say relax, live a little. That guy actually rides 250b so it was probably a typo.

[Matt228]

I raced with this guy at Byron, #110 on a Yamaha. He was so fast it was like he was pro! I think his last name was Hofmaster or something like that...

[Moto-520]

No real sandbagger sightings. Jim Lyon was racing in the "A" class at Byron.

[Matt228]

Guys like Hofmaster or maybe Kyle Corman a couple weeks ago at Walnut in the B class, brings up a good question: What is the definition of a sandbagger?

Hofmaster is pro, yet he hits some local races and is clearly in a class all his own. Kyle Corman beat a top A rider in 14*24, but is still in B class because Suzuki wants him to stay in that class until next year. And then when you have classes like +25A and B at Mendota where sometimes B riders beat A riders...I guess what I'm saying is the line gets blurry sometimes.

[titanium_arm_guy]

moto5 I heard you and mike cleaned the house at byron on monday

[titanium_arm_guy]

Guys like Hofmaster or maybe Kyle Corman a couple weeks ago at Walnut in the B class, brings up a good question: What is the definition of a sandbagger?

Hofmaster is pro, yet he hits some local races and is clearly in a class all his own. Kyle Corman beat a top A rider in 14*24, but is still in B class because Suzuki wants him to stay in that class until next year. And then when you have classes like +25A and B at Mendota where sometimes B riders beat A riders...I guess what I'm saying is the line gets blurry sometimes.

are you using my theory ..."if you're faster than me you're a sandbagger"? No, I kinda know what you mean though, if you place top 3-5 in a 125/250A class why do you gotta sweep the +25 class. I know it's an A class but come on have some class have leave it to the more needy. Plus it's not like +25 pays that much anyway. Not to mention some of these +25 guys have pro licences and actually win 125/250A

[Matt228]

Exactly. I mean, I can't blame him for winning all the money he can, but c'mon.