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the winter living room teardown saga continues... |
wrooster
01-08-2004, 09:31 PM
guys,
it wouldn't be a new year without running another WIFE ACCEPTANCE FACTOR test... see pics below.
ps
i gotta tell you guys who are putting this stuff off -- it is SO SO SO nice to be able to just slide the parts apart VS having to bash on things with a hammer and a drift. everything came off so easy, it was like i had just put it together (though last time was March 03). since then i have about 1000 miles on the bike. as you know i keep after my grease and since there is no banging it takes literally an hour to get the swingarm and linkage off the bike. started taking the seat off at midnight and by 1:00 AM i was washing up.
really happy to see everything in good condition. i do need a new chain buffer and chain guide though, my countershaft sprocket (stock '01) is really looking weary so that's gotta come off, and it MIGHT just be getting time for a new chain (stock '01 DID X-ring). might as well replace the sprockets and chain as a set.
jim aka the wrooster (BONG! BONG! BONG! STILL MARRIED...)
'01 wr250f
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MX813
01-09-2004, 02:42 AM
I see that you located your bike right next to the home radiator. To keep it warm I am sure!!!
Looked your pics online and noticed that your swingarm bolt and bearings had some rust on them? Are you planning to replace the bearings or?
mx813
Blasted
01-09-2004, 03:55 AM
Man,talk about a keeper! ;)
yzman400
01-09-2004, 04:07 AM
Jim I dont know how you pull that off :confused: :confused:
You must be doing something right :thinking: :thinking: :D
wrooster
01-09-2004, 04:17 AM
I see that you located your bike right next to the home radiator. To keep it warm I am sure!!!
it's about 15'F here, there is nothing else to do except bike maintenance. well, there is something else to do but at age 36 you can only do it like every hour -- leaving a good 58 minutes out of every hour free to do bike maintenance. :)
Looked your pics online and noticed that your swingarm bolt and bearings had some rust on them? Are you planning to replace the bearings or?
when i first read your post i was like "rust? there's no rust! what the hell is he talking about?"
i took a closer look at my pics (i didn't really look at them in detail last night, as it was getting late) and i can see why you came to this "rust" conclusion...
for example, take another gander at:
http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/motomisc3/IMG_0143_sm.jpg
but... it's not rust. i use a red grease (CRC/STA-LUBE PREMIUM RED GREASE), and the bloom of the flash when using macro mode (Canon A70) at that close range seems to have made it come out looking orange. i'm holding the linkage in my hands now and there is no rust; the end of that bolt above has a near-pristine coating of the red grease i put on last spring.
i have not taken the linkage all the way down to the bearings yet, but so far i do not see anything that would lead me to want to change them out. pulling the collars out shows good grease is still keeping the needles all comfy. pretty much everything looks the way it did when i took the pictures for my linkage writeup last year...
see
http://www.thumperfaq.com/swingarm.htm
and
http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/linkage/
jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f
wrooster
01-09-2004, 04:26 AM
Man,talk about a keeper! ;)
yeah, this bike has been good to me. :cool:
jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f
ps
oh, you meant my wife? :D
Bamster
01-09-2004, 04:37 AM
I thought Blasted was talking about your wife. :goofy:
SUnruh
01-09-2004, 06:27 AM
too many parts still on the frame!!!
crack that left case open and change that timeing chain!!!
ah, heck, pull the whole motor and put it on the kitchen table. use the sink/dishwasher as a parts washer. chill some races in the freezer. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
for gosh sakes, turn the fuel inlet down to keep stuff from falling in it or duct tape it closed! and put a rag in the carb too after blowing that crap out. :D
wrooster
01-09-2004, 06:42 AM
too many parts still on the frame!!!
rear of the chassis first, front second. otherwise there are too many loose parts and if the neighbors come over for drinks they'll be too many bolts lying around waiting to get lost. :)
crack that left case open and change that timeing chain!!!
yeah yeah yeah, you sound like a broken record on this subject. :cool:
ah, heck, pull the whole motor and put it on the kitchen table. use the sink/dishwasher as a parts washer. chill some races in the freezer.
now you're talkin' !!! :thumbsup:
for gosh sakes, turn the fuel inlet down to keep stuff from falling in it or duct tape it closed! and put a rag in the carb too after blowing that crap out. :D
i was waiting for somebody to catch these. right after i pulled the subframe off the chassis i saw the grunge in the carb inlet and i was like DOH! $#%^&*! and $#%^&*! again. how could i be so dumb?!?! anyway, my newly purchased "James Dean 'Guaranteed to Increase Output by 400+ HP' Jetting Kit" should arrive any minute now so i'm going to take the carb off to change the jets and while it's off i'll give it a 100% internal cleaning.
jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f
ps
you really think it's time for a timing chain? (2700 trail miles) can you do it from the top with just the valve cover off or do you have to take down the head and cylinder?
barton
01-09-2004, 07:09 AM
Hey Wrooster, careful about permeating the house with eu de fuele. That's almost a guaranteed ejection from the game. :naughty:
yzman400
01-09-2004, 07:18 AM
The correct way to change the chain is to pull the head so you can get the chain guides out of the way. You also have to pull the flywheel and stator.
If you pull the flywheel and stator you will see that there is not really enough room between the chain guides and the crank sprocket to slip the chain past.
Like I said The correct way is to pull the head. I changed my chain without doing this. I will not repeat how I did this here. I will get hammered by the TT'rs. :D
Chances are that you dont need to change the chain. But it is only like $35. It is cheep insurance. Next time you check the valves change the chain. It is only a few extra steps. :thumbsup:
wrooster
01-09-2004, 07:31 AM
barton,
i hear ya buddy! the tank is totally (bone) dry and was aired out on the deck for a week or so with the cap off.
the only smell in the house is the sweet scent of the BS i sling with my wife -- "ya see this part over here honey? it's wearing out and could make my bike UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED. luckily they make new ones out of a space age material called carbon fiber and those parts are MUCH SAFER. so i'll just go click-click on the web over here and order one of those SAFER parts..."
my wife then gives me that "you do realize that i'm 8 credits shy of my PhD" look and continues on reading the "Local Eligible Bachelors" section of the town newspaper.
http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/drink.gif
jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f
SUnruh
01-09-2004, 09:48 AM
the timing chain is all of $12 bucks. ie. an expensive 6pack.
if you can do it without taking the left cover off, you are not human. you'd have to be part octopus or plastic man.
with the valve cover off you could follow the manual and check the chain. maybe even do a write up on it. ;)
p.s. winter was last week. 65F and sunny! :thumbsup:
p.p.s broken record or broken parts/valves/head. yer choice. :excuseme:
i was waiting for somebody to catch these. right after i pulled the subframe off the chassis i saw the grunge in the carb inlet and i was like DOH! $#%^&*! and $#%^&*! again. how could i be so dumb?!?! anyway, my newly purchased "James Dean 'Guaranteed to Increase Output by 400+ HP' Jetting Kit" should arrive any minute now so i'm going to take the carb off to change the jets and while it's off i'll give it a 100% internal cleaning.
Hey Jim - what the heck is all of that stuff in your venturi/JamesNow mod? What is your plate made of? Looks like nylon shavings/chips?! :confused: :excuseme:
http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/motomisc3/IMG_0146_sm.jpg
wrooster
01-09-2004, 11:35 AM
av,
no, it's just "generic dirt" that fell off the subframe when i pulled it off the bike. i forgot to stuff something in the intake when i pulled the airbox boot back. steve already beat me up about it. i'm feeling pretty low right now just looking at that pic. maybe i should have a beer?
:cheers:
jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f
yzman400
01-09-2004, 12:32 PM
Jim,
You should know better by know than to post pictures of your handy work with these jackals around. These guys on TT will find every little thing that is wrong with your bike just from looking at a picture.
EPatt
01-09-2004, 02:10 PM
You shouldn't drink alone. I'll get a beer too. :lol:
tctrailrider
01-09-2004, 05:25 PM
Wrooster,
Over 1800 posts and you are only a TT Member, thought you would be an exotic metal by now. Did Brian put you in the doghouse like your wife is going to?
Blue4Life
01-09-2004, 08:20 PM
I did mine, but on hindsight, I might have not. It's easier to clean the bearings in the linkage with contact cleaner and just regrease them. But I know mine have PLENTY of grease in them, I just did it a week ago. It's the once a year ritual. It takes me about 4 hours, apparently I'm slow. I usually tear it all down and clean everything up one night, then the next I grease it/bolt everything back together.
wrooster
01-09-2004, 09:53 PM
Wrooster, Over 1800 posts and you are only a TT Member, thought you would be an exotic metal by now. Did Brian put you in the doghouse [...]?
yes. in someone's eyes i forgot to salute -- subsequently i was demoted without the courtesy of an explanation. :smirk:
in the future i'll try to be a "good TT member" by contributing useful technical posts, writing maintanence HOW-TO's, authoring detailed ride reports, helping the newbies out, generating info for the 250 FAQ, and (finally but most importantly) being absolutely positively 100% sure to mention the TT store when anyone asks where to get parts. (like this example) (http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=852430&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=all&vc=1)
jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f
TiddlerRacer
01-10-2004, 06:26 PM
Jim I dont know how you pull that off :confused: :confused:
You must be doing something right :thinking: :thinking: :D
You didn't know? Wrooster wears a size 18 boot.
'Nuff said! :lol:
Robert
01-11-2004, 12:38 AM
Are there any more women like your wife over there? Your one lucky chap. ;)
wrooster
01-12-2004, 06:57 AM
Are there any more women like your wife over there? Your one lucky chap. ;)
guys guys guys -- listen to me. you can get away with anything, and i mean "ANYTHING" if you follow three basic rules:
1) establish a "monthly present" system. buy your wife something once EVERY month that costs like $5-$20. flowers. a card. two movie tickets. fingernail place gift certificate. a car wash. high end tea or coffee. a book from oprah's list. a bottle of bath oil. even stupid/corny stuff, like plastic handcuffs. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING RELATED TO HOUSEWORK AS THE MONTHLY PRESENT. so no Lemon Pledge, nor vaccuum cleaner bags. Tide laundry detergent is right out. make a big deal out of the monthly present. if you screw up and forget the monthly present, combine it with the next one and get back on track.
2) splurge once in a while. do you NEED some carbon fiber whatnot on your bike, or should you just buy your wife those pair of Manolo Blahniks that she has been fondling at the shoe store? i know you think that the carbon fiber widget is more important BUT in reality your long term mental and marital health is very dependent on the quality of your wife's shoes. :)
3) do not flirt or otherwise have any sort of "relations" with your wife's friends. :naughty:
look, my wife is a professional counselor. she knows every psychological trick in the book -- and she's read quite a few books. :blush: to that end, i have not won an argument with her in our nearly 5 years of marriage. there have been times when i've thought to myself, "ok, this time there's NO WAY she can win". eventually she does the Jedi mind trick thing on me and it turns out i'm wrong. but, i'm the one with my bike apart in the living room... :cool:
jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f
SUnruh
01-12-2004, 08:12 AM
eventually she does the Jedi mind trick thing on me and it turns out i'm wrong.
yer admitting in public that yer a stormtrooper? :blush:
wrooster
01-12-2004, 08:16 AM
eventually she does the Jedi mind trick thing on me and it turns out i'm wrong.
yer admitting in public that yer a stormtrooper? :blush:
on that note, here's a pretty funny "indy" clip:
http://download.theforce.net/theater/troops/troops.mov
WARNING, ~27MB!!!
jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f
Ooooh, ooooh, can I add to this thread too? :D
All off except for the tail and head (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/pd69ed48ac27cdd4588a809cf1689b461/f9fdf213.jpg)
Steering stem off too (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/pd0df85ab7f560ac67f1681e5aa81d3ee/f9fa0c19.jpg)
Picture of the wrooster, I mean rooster (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/pcb9b7bd68579200ba3cd0efda6c5c1ac/f9fa0b4b.jpg) :lol:
The polylube in the connecting rod, picture 1 (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/p97e2926de8d98547e4759994b6bed5c7/f9f6b756.jpg)
The polylube in the connecting rod, picture 2 (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/p66350e7b4e79dbb100213af46379a2ec/f9f6b6f0.jpg)
The polylube in the relay arm (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/pa2e0f65388cf0fa69cd18785b0c50ffc/f9f6b7a7.jpg)
Clean parts (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/p49c14398734d723eac6dbd9482c04996/f9f6b8a2.jpg)
Picture of last year's clean parts (http://mysite.verizon.net/avinh/motorcycles/wr250f/misc/DSC00261.JPG)
There are definitely some wear signs on the parts comparing this year's to last year. If you don't grease your linkage, etc. you'll be sorry :naughty:
The steering stem held up the best, i.e. the grease was pretty fresh while the swingarm's and linkage's grease was still decent but the grease is not in its original color like the steering stem due to mud/water, etc. - see "Steering stem off too" picture from above for the steering stem grease color, the linkage/swingarm grease was more of a grey color instead of that nice blue color.
Next step, grease all the parts and mount them back on after I get my forks and shock back. (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/p0dc24ffc5f7a60029ab1e0729c5724ee/f9fdeef4.jpg) I finally broke down and sent them in for a revalve/rebuild & resprung job to match my weight and riding preferences - they'll be setup like a YZ but more plush for the trails and for MX I can just adjust the clickers according to the suspension expert - I hope it's worth the $$ like everyone have been saying, can't wait to ride on them! :thumbsup: :D
Oh yeah, I'm also putting on my ProTapers 7/8" bar and Michelins MS2 front and S12 rear - wooohooo, it'll be like a new bike with much better legs! :cool:
Here is the link to the rest of the pictures on ImageStation, (http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4288046409) you'll have to login (free to setup an account) and click on the pictures twice to get the full size pictures (much better details than what is shown above). :cheers:
Blue4Life
01-13-2004, 04:54 PM
Everywhere I look, it's at least $600 to get it revalved and springs changed for a fat old guy.
wrooster
01-13-2004, 07:18 PM
Blue4Life,
talk to jeff howe at trakcontrol dynamics suspension...
http://www.trakcontrol.com/
jeff did sunruh's lowering/suspension work, and did my suspension as well. a first class operation. he's going to ask you tons of questions about your riding style, terrain, etc. work with him, you'll like the results.
jim aka the wrooster
'01 wr250f
ps
can i ask you question? why do you modify the subject line of the post when you reply? often i'm confused for a few seconds when reading your posts since you start your message in the subject line. i.e. i read the first line, and i'm like "what's this about?". i think someone else asked you about this as well, but i never saw a reply.
TiddlerRacer
01-13-2004, 09:03 PM
jeff did sunruh's lowering/suspension work, and did my suspension as well. a first class operation. he's going to ask you tons of questions about your riding style, terrain, etc. work with him, you'll like the results.
How are Jeff's prices?
LanceS
01-13-2004, 09:19 PM
why do you modify the subject line of the post when you reply
Summarizing, he said it was an etiquette thing, so people could get the jist of the message & didn't have to download the whole message if not interested. My guess is that he's viewing in threaded mode, whereas we're viewing in flat mode.
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